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    Question is vaccination compulsary when travelling to mexico?

    did u hear about the auckland students who may have Swine Flu:

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/akld...mptoms-2675117

    I thought if you go to 3rd world type countries you cannot leave the country unless you have a vaccination? or is it voluntary?

    And if these students are confirmed to have Swine Flu, does new zealand law require them to stay at home so they don't spread the Flu or can they get treatment at home/hospital and go and come as they please? Anyone know what the law says?

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    Default Re: is vaccination compulsary when travelling to mexico?

    There is no vaccine for Swine flu.

    Vaccines for tourists are generally voluntary, except for yellow fever where you have to produce a vaccination certificate at the border if you have come from an endemic area.

    According to that article, the students are restricted to home until their lab tests results are available. If they do turn out to be infected, but they aren't that sick, then they would probably stay at home but follow strict infection control measures. I can't imagine the hospitals would want infected (but well enough) patients with Swine flu on their premises with so many other immuno-compromised patients.

    If an infected student was sick enough for admission, then they would be held in a special room designed for infectious people.

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    Default Re: is vaccination compulsary when travelling to mexico?

    I'm not sure vaccinations are compulsory, but depending where you travel from, and destination in Mexico, some may be recommended. I lived in LA for many years and often frequented Tijuana and Mexicali without problem. The border (US/Mexico) towns are pretty much OK, but some of the remote areas are suspect - don't drink the water! (Tequila's fine )

    Try this site http://www.mdtravelhealth.com/destin...rib/mexico.php or ask your travel agent. Have a safe trip. And don't catch Montezumas Revenge

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    Default Re: is vaccination compulsary when travelling to mexico?

    I was talking to a public health doctor today and she said if you've had your flu shots this year then you would most likely be OK..
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulw View Post
    I was talking to a public health doctor today and she said if you've had your flu shots this year then you would most likely be OK..
    Huh? Is she still talking about the new strain of swine 'flu? If she is, I doubt it as it sounds like it's a different strain of flu, a combination of human, pig and bird strains...
    HAve a read of the NZ Herald article here:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=10568705

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    Default Re: is vaccination compulsary when travelling to mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by paulw View Post
    I was talking to a public health doctor today and she said if you've had your flu shots this year then you would most likely be OK..
    I fail to see how a flu jab could work for a new strain.

    This was an interesting discussion on flu http://twit.tv/fib40

    To summarise from the web site

    "In the winter of 1918-19, fifty million people died horrible deaths from the Spanish flu. The threat of this happening again today is ever so present. And while we have drugs that are fairly effective against influenza, they are not foolproof. The possible devastation to humanity from this threat is extremely significant. The world will look to the best and brightest scientists and clinicians in hopes that they know and understand the virus well enough to fight it".

    Note those fifty million died in a three month period, and there is nothing to stopp it happening again, indeed this might be the start of it, you never know.

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    Default Re: is vaccination compulsary when travelling to mexico?

    "In the winter of 1918-19, fifty million people died horrible deaths from the Spanish flu . . .
    However, the following year a great deal more people died of NOT having Spanish Flu. And again just last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R2x1 View Post
    However, the following year a great deal more people died of NOT having Spanish Flu. And again just last year.
    And what's your point? That because it didn't kill as many people as other causes combined, that it wasn't a big deal??

    Not sure if that's right anyway.. maybe last year it was true, but back when it happened in 1918-1920 the world population was a lot smaller and the total number killed across the world by it was equivalent to 1/3rd the entire population of Europe Imagine if that percentage happened today, that would be the equivalent of, what, 200-250 million people dead?

    That's the scary thing with these mutations. They might turn out to be contained quickly, like the Bird Flu a while back, but if a serious one mutates to spread easily, it could cause massive deaths again. And most scientists agree the world is overdue for another large pandemic.
    Well at least it would help with the world overcrowding problems

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    Default Re: is vaccination compulsary when travelling to mexico?

    Fortunately with modern technology, we can deal with any flu pandemic a lot better now than we could nearly a century ago. For example, early indications are that Tamiflu (which NZ has 800000 doses stockpiled) are effective against this new strain. Then there's the fact that sanitation nowadays is much better, and we have ways of fighting secondary infections like pneumonia etc.
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    Default Re: is vaccination compulsary when travelling to mexico?

    From MY doctors at the Loma Linda/VA Medical Center:

    Having had a flu shot this past year will help quite a bit in minimizing the effects of swine flu, but more so in the H-1/HA types of flu.

    Swine flu is another fine Chinese export to Mexico and now the rest of the world and Google Maps has it all posted at:

    $swine flu

    or $swine flu in New Zealand

    Be sure to use the hashmark, either $ or # in the Google Maps browser area for best results.

    BTW: There IS a swine flu vaccine, although multi-variant in application - and if your NZ docs say no, then they just don't have any and are pulling the wool over your eyes. How appropriate - the "wool" part, anyway!

    Article follows with permission for promulgation:


    Novavax Vaccine Protects Against Bird Flu

    As the Swine Flu continues to take lives in Mexico, and more cases are reported in the United States, help may be on the way. Scientists at Novavax, Inc. have successfully developed the first multi-strain flu vaccine, though it may not be FDA approved in time to help with the current flu.

    New Vaccine Protects Against Multiple Flu Strains

    Date: April 25, 2009 | Rockville, MD | United States of America | STATUS: outbreak.

    The new preclinical study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, GA and Novavax , Inc. report that the H1N1 virus-like particle (VLP) vaccine protects against both the Spanish flu and a highly infective H5N1 avian influenza (Bird Flu) strain.

    The H1N1 virus-like particle (VLP) vaccine differs from traditional vaccines in several ways. The scientists at Novavax have engineered H1N1 as a live influenza vaccine. 'Unlike other non-live influenza vaccines, the VLPs are uniquely positioned to stimulate immunity through multiple mechanisms,' said Dr. Penny Heaton, Chief Medical Officer at Novavax.

    A live vaccine can stimulate special antibodies that both prevent the virus from attaching to cells but also prevent the virus from fusing with cells. Dr. Penny Heaton added that the live vaccine developed by Novavax "may stimulate production of antibody that prevents spread of the virus down the respiratory tract."

    Researchers from Novavax and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccinated mice and ferrets with H1N1. All of the immunized mice and ferrets were protected when exposed to a lethal dose of the 1918 influenza virus, and those animals that were immunized by the intranasal route were also protected against a lethal dose of a highly pathogenic bird flu strain.

    This is the first time protection against strains with different HA types has been reported. Having one vaccine which can protect against multiple strains of flu would be a great help when faced with pandemic flu situations, such as the current swine flu outbreak. A vaccine which can protect against multiple strains of flu is ideal for agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who stockpile vaccines for administration during the first wave of the pandemics.


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