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    Default Helengrad.

    We may of heard b4,
    but lest we forget.


    Once upon a time there was a young girl named Helen who bought a
    > donkey from a farmer for $100. The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey
    > the next day.
    >
    > When the farmer drove up the next day, he said, "Sorry miss, I have
    > some bad news. The donkey is on my truck but I'm afraid he's dead."
    >
    > Helen replied," Well then, just give me my money back."
    >
    > The farmer said, "I can't do that. I went and spent it already."
    >
    > Helen said, "OK then just unload the donkey anyway."
    >
    > The farmer asked, "What are ya gonna do with him?"
    > Helen said, "I'm going to raffle him off."
    >
    > The farmer exclaimed, "You can't raffle off a dead donkey!"
    >
    > But Helen, with a big smile on her face, said "Sure I can. Watch me.
    > I just won't tell anybody that he's dead."
    >
    > A month later the farmer met up with Helen and asked, "What happened
    > with that dead donkey?"
    >
    > Helen said, "I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars a
    > piece and made a profit of $798.00."
    >
    > Totally amazed, the farmer asked, "Didn't anyone complain that you
    > had stolen their money because you lied about the donkey being dead?"
    >
    > Helen replied, "The only guy who found out about the donkey being
    > dead was the raffle winner, when he came to claim his prize. So I gave
    > him his $2 back plus $200 extra, which is double the going value of a
    > donkey, so he thought I was a really great girl."
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    > Helen grew up and eventually became the Prime Minister of New
    > Zealand, and no matter how many times she lied or how much money she
    > stole from Kiwi voters, as long as she gave them back some of the
    > stolen money, most of them thought she was a great person
    >

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    Default Re: Helengrad.

    You shouldn't knock those Labour voters

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    And the alternative is? Have you got some honest politician hiding away that the rest of us haven't heard of yet?

    Doesn't matter who you elect, they are all lying sleazebags under the surface.

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    Cicero's story hits the nail on the head, and Helengrad and the Labour sisterhood were one of the major reasons why this Kiwi in his mid sixties bought a one way ticket to Australia. NZ has a government who believes that they have every right to spend as much of the peoples' money as they like, and anyway they know what is best, so how dare anyone question them!
    I couldn't see it getting better in my lifetime - and on the balance of things I believe I made the right decision.
    I agree with Makin, on the alternative, although maybe things are looking up.
    The National Party, has kept the same tired old hacks round at the top for too long and badly needs a clean out - many of them have already had a go in government and failed.
    The problem is where is that honest altruistic future politician who identifies with and is identified by middle New Zealand as representing their aspirations - does he exist? and if he does, will he demean himself to stand for parliament, when the public perception of politicians falls off the bottom of the scale.
    Middle New Zealand, those hard working, tax paying, law abiding Kiwis who are sick of being financially hammered by governments year after year, and by and large ignored by mainstream politicians, except to be made the occasional election promise that is promptly broken, deserve a better deal than they had been getting over the past 25 years.
    NZ used to be a great country where anyone with ambition and a will to work and wanting to better themselves could do so and prosper - I don't think that applies today- it's become too bloody hard for most young people, and the great middle NZ has been carrying too many bludgers for too long.
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    I think the best solution would be to get rid of MMP, reduce the amount of seats in parliament and only allow the Prime Minister to serve a maximum of 2 terms in parliament like they do in the US.
    It's not a great solution but it would be better than what we have currently.

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    Definitely get rid of MMP - but don't go back to first past the post, it panders to the politicians almost as much as MMP does. - Replace it with preferential voting per medium of a single transferable vote - ie voters preferences not parties trading preferences. I definitely agree with a limit on the time the people need suffer any PM, on the record of the past 25 years, it is hard to think of one that "earned" a second term let alone 3 or more.

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    That is always worth a laugh Tom but for pete's sake use Email Stripper to clean up those arrows. http://www.snapfiles.com/get/emstripper.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    That is always worth a laugh Tom but for pete's sake use Email Stripper to clean up those arrows. http://www.snapfiles.com/get/emstripper.html

    My dear 001,you may not be aware,but like you I am doing good in Thailand at the moment,or at least that is what young ladies keep saying as I lay ,oops the bricks.

    Hence don't have cleaner to hand.
    Like you old boy not fond of same.

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    Delighted to hear that Tom. There was a lawyer from Dunedin who contacted me, planning on going to Thailand to build with Habitat or similar.

    Pray tell us more.

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    As this a family mag,I must avoid details,enought to say I have played my part in building bridge's etc with the Thai people,but if your chum needs a few tips,I am his man.

    Wink wink nod nod say no more.

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