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    Default Which is worse Integrated Graphics or old PCI graphics?

    OK I have a Dell with Intel Integrated "Extreme" graphics, it goes OK and serves me well.

    Sometimes I think about upgrading the graphics but it has no PCI express nor any AGP slot unfortunately. Upgrading the motherboard means complications with CPUs & RAM too perhaps.

    So that makes me wonder, are there any PCI graphics cards which would actually do better than the extreme integrated graphics which probably take about a quarter of my 504 megs of RAM?

    Any thoughts would be appreciated but it is hardly a life or death problem!!!!

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    Default Re: Which is worse Integrated Graphics or old PCI graphics?

    depends on what graphics chip it has. the pci bus limits the graphics quite a bit and good onboard graphics can outperform them. however majority of onboard graphibs are made for cost reasons rather than performance.
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    Default Re: Which is worse Integrated Graphics or old PCI graphics?

    Which is worse?

    Yes.
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    Default Re: Which is worse Integrated Graphics or old PCI graphics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Metla
    Which is worse?

    Yes.
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    Default Re: Which is worse Integrated Graphics or old PCI graphics?

    I am in the same situation - Dell, intergrated Intel "Extreme" graphics, no PCI-E or AGP slot - wanted a PCI card to upgrade to Vista. But now, I have a Vista skin for XP.
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    Default Re: Which is worse Integrated Graphics or old PCI graphics?

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    Default Re: Which is worse Integrated Graphics or old PCI graphics?

    Quote Originally Posted by pcuserwinxp
    I am in the same situation - Dell, intergrated Intel "Extreme" graphics, no PCI-E or AGP slot - wanted a PCI card to upgrade to Vista. But now, I have a Vista skin for XP.
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    Default Re: Which is worse Integrated Graphics or old PCI graphics?

    Remember it also depends what you want the graphics for, and how much you need the RAM. If you're just doing office work etc, then most PCI cards will do the job just fine, and you'll free up the RAM. If you're trying to do any kind of 3D rendering though, it's probably better to stick with the onboard graphics. As mentioned above, the PCI bus is quite a bottleneck if you're trying to run a decent video card through it. The onboard will probably vastly outperform almost any PCI card.

    You may also be able to limit the amount of memory that onboard graphics uses - often this is a BIOS setting, but occasionally it's a driver one. The lowest limit will probably be around 8MB or so.
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    Default Re: Which is worse Integrated Graphics or old PCI graphics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bletch
    Remember it also depends what you want the graphics for, and how much you need the RAM.

    If you're trying to do any kind of 3D rendering though, it's probably better to stick with the onboard graphics. .
    Er...if you're doing anything other than office work, rendering, gaming whatever - then upgrade the thing so that you can put in a modern, decent PCI-E graphics card.

    That will involve a new motherboard and likely a new CPU too, and probably a PSU capable of running the graphics card too.
    But anything else is pointless.

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    I can't change the motherboard! I don't have the standard I/O ports inside!
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