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    Default Re: Why's NZ the only country

    The answer's simple. We sold our telephone company to the yanks and they are running it to get the biggest profits for themselves.
    Jack GOF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJJJJ
    The answer's simple. We sold our telephone company to the yanks and they are running it to get the biggest profits for themselves.
    I think it was a good idea to sell it.
    The problem was the seller didn't think of all the ramifications and most certainly should not have overlooked the virtual monopoly given to the buyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godfather
    NZ is a very remote country with a low population to share the bandwidth costs compared to many other countries and regions.

    The cables are both long and therefore expensive. Its not subsidised by Government, due to the "privatisation" policies adopted years ago. If it was Governemnet owned and subsidised, the cost would appear elsewhere in taxes. At least this way the user pays?
    As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, why no rates that differnetiate between local and international traffic Goddie? Surely this model is not user pays, but local usage subsidising international usage.

    The cable and data rate arguements, if accurate, suggest there is a cost plus mentality driving pricing, rather than a market driven one. More evidence, IMO, for cutting Telecom loose from it's lines.

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    Default Re: Why's NZ the only country

    Everybody's an expert, that's why Telecom runs it.

    We would probably be far worse off if it was run by a committee of well-meaning users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray P
    As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, why no rates that differnetiate between local and international traffic Goddie? Surely this model is not user pays, but local usage subsidising international usage.
    My substantial shareholding in Telecom plus generous share options prevent me from adequately responding to this, sorry Murray.

    However, in the "old days" of Jetstart when it was differentiated I asked Telecom how the end user would know if the traffic was local (as a lot of .nz sites are now overseas hosted) to which they responded that it was entirely the end users problem.

    As I barely ever break 1 GB of a 3 GB cap, its not a concern for me either.

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    Default Re: Why's NZ the only country

    Can a $100 worth of shares be considered substantial?

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    Default Re: Why's NZ the only country

    Quote Originally Posted by Cicero
    Can a $100 worth of shares be considered substantial?
    Cicee, what on earth are are you implying?

    We have something in common then Goddie, we are both looking out for number one


    Oh, BTW, I'm sure if there was a matter of legal/sovereign jurisdiction, they'd know exactly where the network chickens should roost.
    Last edited by Murray P; 04-08-2005 at 06:42 PM.

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    Default Re: Why's NZ the only country

    Thought I was asking a question,the implication is in the eye of the beholder.

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    Default Re: Why's NZ the only country

    Well Cicee, there's more than one type of question, is there not?

    I'll answer yours literally though, if I may:

    Nope

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    Default Re: Why's NZ the only country

    Quote Originally Posted by Murray P
    Well Cicee, there's more than one type of question, is there not?

    I'll answer yours literally though, if I may:

    Nope
    Right, I won't invest then.
    Good thing really,didn't want to compromise myself and stultify my ability to comment on certain matters.

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