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    Question Teaching Web Development

    Hi Everyone

    It all started when i wanted to enter the 2005 netguide web challenge
    Unfortuatly i needed a team as only secondary school students can enter the competition as indiviual
    So what i did was asked my teacher if our class could enter the class category.

    He thought it over and said YES
    But if the class was going to do this then i would have to teach them
    So we need your help
    Most of the students are at band during my alloted time so they wont be entering
    I am left with a taskforce of 10 students who are absolute DUNCES when it comes to web sites.
    What should i teach them so they can flourish and i can look really smart.
    my class is the smart class and are rather intelligent so can handle hard work
    Not too hard though

    All help Appreciated
    Techiekid

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    Hey i have finnaly made my 100th post
    This of couse is my 101st post
    Oh Yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by techiekid
    I am left with a taskforce of 10 students who are absolute DUNCES when it comes to web sites.
    What should i teach them so they can flourish and i can look really smart.
    my class is the smart class and are rather intelligent so can handle hard work
    Not too hard though
    Good on you for trying out for this competition.

    Your fellow team members might not know how to code up a page at this stage, but what they can do is help with design. Get together and decide what your webpage is about and what you want it to convey. Do a simple diagram with your main page and what pages lead off from that. That gives you some structure. Next is the creative part. Colours, layouts, style and theme. Hit the internet and find pages that have things that you like the look of. Example, the way one website uses a combination of colours for background, headings, sections that you think looks nice. Then look at what page layouts appeal to you, and so on. The idea is to get ideas and your teams creative juices flowing, and not to just copy someone else. Remember that part, as the competition is to reflect your ideas and work.

    As your team is rather new at this, the best thing you can do is keep it simple as possible and avoid any over the top feature.

    Web development isn't just coding the page, it is also the design and functionality that goes into it.

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    You could point them to the HP courses run online. Currently (or soon) there's one on PHP and MySql.
    http://www.hplearningcenter.com/

    And there's one called How to Build your First Website
    Last edited by Greg; 28-05-2005 at 10:08 AM.
    Bugger the cancer. I'm suffering from terminal inertia.

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    thanks evryone

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    Check out the previous winners and the comments about them.
    Find out what they did right, what set them above the others. List their attributes and use those ideas in your site. The more planning you do the less creation you have to do.

    From what I have seen there is a strong graphic element in the designs, original, creative, stylish = dreamweaver, over plain, rectangular boxy = Frontpage. Also noted small Flash elements as well. In some ways this isn't fair, not all schools can aford dreamweaver.

    All this demands a long time in teaching, graphics, style, html, flash, its not a quick process.

    Personally I would judge more on code and cleanness instead of "point and click" technologies.

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    It may pay to take note at http://www.w3schools.com/

    I've been learning schtuff from there. Quite good tutoriials

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward
    It may pay to take note at http://www.w3schools.com/

    I've been learning schtuff from there. Quite good tutoriials
    I went to school with the winners a few years ago. Their advise -entered as a team- was to split the work load. Get some to do the content, some to do the 'design', and one to actually make it. That way, you save time, in your case, of teaching other people stuff about web building -and you get the quality from different people each specialising in their area.

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    I went to school with the winners a few years ago. Their advice -entered as a team- was to split the work load. Get some to do the content, some to do the 'design', and one to actually make it. That way, you save time, in your case, of teaching other people stuff about web building -and you get the quality from different people each specialising in their area.
    Last edited by techie; 28-05-2005 at 07:08 PM.

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    By looking at the previous winners it looks as if you can't win without making your site completely non-standards compliant and saturated in flash. One of the winners said "sorry your browser is detected as being firefox, please install MS IE 6!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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