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    Default What's with all the fuss about Matariki?

    Why are they making such a fuss? They are treating it as if it is something new. But we have known about the pleiades cluster (also known as the seven sisters) for aeons. I don't see why we need all this carry on just because someone has just recently rediscovered the maori name for that cluster of stars.

    As highly visible heliacal stars, the Pleiades were among the most important celestial body, after the moon, and used for a first astronomic conception. The Pleiades heliacal rising was widely recognised in Austral regions, as the beginning of the new-year and then of agricultural season. So to call it the maori new year is also not anything new.

    So what are they all going on about? Surely there are more crucial things to discuss rather than a cluster of stars? It might be important to astronomers but not to the majority. Interesting, perhaps, but not worth making a big song and dance about.
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    Default Re: What's with all the fuss about Matariki?

    Thinking along the lines of Culturally Aware, or to recognise the Maori Culture / Diversity perhaps. Seems to be all the rage lately.

    cultural-diversity/

    OR perhaps someone in govt decided it was time for a new public holiday and this time of year was a good reason.
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    Default Re: What's with all the fuss about Matariki?

    its Tokenism
    lets a few whities feel they are doing the right thing .


    What about Chinese New Year ? Will soon be as many Chinese as Maori

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1101 View Post
    its Tokenism
    lets a few whities feel they are doing the right thing .


    What about Chinese New Year ? Will soon be as many Chinese as Maori
    I think that you are right. It is tokenism.

    But your "soon be as many Chinese as maori" is not as correct. They are Asian and not necessarily of Chinese origin. Taiwan is one small example.

    But yes, you are right. We don't have a public holiday for Chinese New Year. Why not? There have been Chinese in NZ for a least the last two hundred years. The first recorded ethnic Chinese in New Zealand were immigrants from the Guangdong province of China, who arrived during the 1850's gold-rush era. Due to this historical influx, there is still a distinct Chinese community in Dunedin.
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    Default Re: What's with all the fuss about Matariki?

    No more holidays .
    Its getting stupid.
    Most dont respect what the various holidays where actually for .

    Its not a free shopping day . If we dont respect the day , why have it as a holiday.
    That applies to easter , xmas, Anzac, Waitangi

    How can it be a 'holiday' when so many are forced to work , just so we can buy a coffee or a pot plant. Or get stupidly drunk at the pub .

    I thought the 4 weeks annual leave was over the top. It just becomes an issue for employers having to find a way to cover staff's annual 4 weeks off
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    Default Re: What's with all the fuss about Matariki?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roscoe View Post
    Why are they making such a fuss? They are treating it as if it is something new. :
    The day off is new.
    My mower guy came today, he's having a long weekend off.
    Son is having a long weekend too.

    Yay for Matariki....you grump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piroska View Post
    The day off is new.
    My mower guy came today, he's having a long weekend off.
    Son is having a long weekend too.

    Yay for Matariki.
    At least it means something to someone - it's a day off, a long weekend. That will give them time to go somewhere for a break, so it's not a total loss.
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    Once the Chinese/Indian population increases above the maori population they will put an end to this nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prefect View Post
    Once the Chinese/Indian population increases above the maori population they will put an end to this nonsense.
    Here's hoping.
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    Default Re: What's with all the fuss about Matariki?

    My long departed father used to, in his job running 7 seasonal warehouses, employ up to 150 labourer staff for 6-7 months each year. The biggest problem he had was, as his staff used to call it, was the "Maori day off"

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