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    Default Re: Electric aircraft in the near future? I don't think so.

    R2x1 You've nailed it-well said

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    Default Re: Electric aircraft in the near future? I don't think so.

    what happened to all the water powered cars ?

    Back in the 70's or 80's ? ,there was a Kiwi who had a Holden powered by water only .
    He supposedly sold the invention for many millions of $

    Anyone remember this ? Possibly just bad reporters not fact checking at the time ?
    There was also an Ak guy on the news 10-20 years ago who powered his Motorcycle with water . That may have been a scam , the reporters didnt check his motorbike for hidden petrol tanks :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1101 View Post
    what happened to all the water powered cars ?

    Back in the 70's or 80's ? ,there was a Kiwi who had a Holden powered by water only .
    He supposedly sold the invention for many millions of $
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    Yes there's always a story about water powered cars....and the big nasty oil companies buy their silence and suppress it.

    Husband used to work with a guy, who on retirement, or come to think of it, even before, was always working on his magic powered vehicles.
    Husband used to tell him it was perpetual motion but he if still alive, is no doubt still working away in the shed.

    These days "water" powered vehicles are these:

    https://www.toyota.co.nz/electrifica...rogen-project/
    Ex-pctek

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    Default Re: Electric aircraft in the near future? I don't think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1101 View Post
    what happened to all the water powered cars ?

    Back in the 70's or 80's ? ,there was a Kiwi who had a Holden powered by water only .
    He supposedly sold the invention for many millions of $

    Anyone remember this ? Possibly just bad reporters not fact checking at the time ?
    There was also an Ak guy on the news 10-20 years ago who powered his Motorcycle with water . That may have been a scam , the reporters didnt check his motorbike for hidden petrol tanks :-)
    i remember one. exhaust testing picked up co2 etc so it had fuel of some sort.
    i suspect what they had made was fuel emulsion, ie combined water and fuel.

    remember the HHO craze.
    Tweak it till it breaks

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    Default Re: Electric aircraft in the near future? I don't think so.

    The was an inventor who came up with a magic pellet , that when dropped into the cars special tank of water, the car could run off that
    Turns out it was acetylene . So nothing new .

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    Default Re: Electric aircraft in the near future? I don't think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1101 View Post
    The was an inventor who came up with a magic pellet , that when dropped into the cars special tank of water, the car could run off that
    Turns out it was acetylene . So nothing new .
    that would be very dangerous. acetylene becomes explosive when under pressure (>15psi) and combine that with the air in a fuel tank.
    Tweak it till it breaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by piroska View Post
    Yes there's always a story about water powered cars....and the big nasty oil companies buy their silence and suppress it.
    My father told me there have been many instances of new ideas thought up over the years and the petrol companies bought their concepts and shelved them. They are making too much money and just don't want the competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roscoe View Post
    My father told me there have been many instances of new ideas thought up over the years and the petrol companies bought their concepts and shelved them. They are making too much money and just don't want the competition.
    the thing about good ideas is many people make those things independent of each other. so if it was a good idea and its been suppressed, it simply pops up elsewhere.
    the big one is to take patents out on it. but that has time limits and some companies will use that idea, flood the market and make the money before you can enforce the patent.

    so the idea companies go around buying out those ideas and not use them, thats either false or the ideas where not actually any good.

    especially add in the competitiveness between companies, anyone that can make their product better does so, so they can outsell the competition.
    Tweak it till it breaks

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