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    Default Re: Hugh Perrett: TV1 presenters use of Maori phrases on TV

    Quote Originally Posted by piroska View Post
    I feel fine, thanks.

    I don't live in fear of a few phrases of a language used by the original inhabitants of a country being used commonly in public.
    It amazes me that people are so frightened of it.

    BUt then some are full of self-interest and maintaining a status quo.

    Others lack a strong identity and struggle with insecurity, bolstering their own worth by beliefs of superiority,.

    A few suffer from paranoid personality disorder and narcissism .

    Sad really, they should look to getting help rather than spouting nonsense that just perpetuates their own fears.
    BULL ****!!
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    I don't live in fear of a few phrases of a language used by the original inhabitants of a country . . .
    "Original inhabitants"? Where do you get that from? The maoris are not the original inhabitants. Even the maoris will tell you that! The Morioris were here when they arrived. The maori stories tell of them travelling from their home of Hawaiki, somewhere in the Pacific.

    New Zealand was home to the people called the Moriori. As far as I am aware they were the "original inhabitants." When maori arrived on these shores, they massacred, ate, and completely wiped out the Moriori people.

    So I certainly don't have any sympathy for a race of people who would do that. But having said that, I have found individual maoris lovely people. But you won't hear them talking about those early years in the country. Not that I'm surprised.
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    Default Re: Hugh Perrett: TV1 presenters use of Maori phrases on TV

    Quote Originally Posted by Roscoe View Post
    The Morioris were ....
    fact checking, its not that hard.
    That old wives tale was debunked ages ago .
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the...e-moriori-myth

    "The reason [the myth of Moriori extinction] became so powerfully ingrained in the psyche of New Zealanders is because, if Māori could push Moriori out of NZ, then later European migrants could push Māori off their land,” he says.

    Anyway, back on topic.
    When the majority of Maori cant be bothered learning their language, why should anyone else ?

    When even 50% of Maori are fluenent in their language, THEN come back to us about making it compulsory in schools & an official language
    That will never happen , as most Maori cant be bothered . So much for it being so important to them.

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    Default Re: Hugh Perrett: TV1 presenters use of Maori phrases on TV

    What we are starting to get is Maori only schools here. It'd be sad if there's a whole generation of New Zealanders who can't or are not willing to connect with other New Zealanders. I'm starting to learn Maori. But I'm lucky enough to live in a "Maori" town, even if alot of the maori I learn is slang and mixed with Engrish

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    Don't forget Latin does have its uses if only to set the legal profession above the (in their view) uneducated masses and satisfy their vanity. Seriously, many phrases we use in everyday language are from Latin ... affidavit, bona fide, alias, sub poena, pro bono. Although these tend to be used in a legal context.
    Latin is also used in medicine, biology, religion, history... It's not dead and useless as many seem to think.
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    Default Re: Hugh Perrett: TV1 presenters use of Maori phrases on TV

    Quote Originally Posted by piroska View Post
    I feel fine, thanks.

    I don't live in fear of a few phrases of a language used by the original inhabitants of a country being used commonly in public.
    It amazes me that people are so frightened of it.

    BUt then some are full of self-interest and maintaining a status quo.

    Others lack a strong identity and struggle with insecurity, bolstering their own worth by beliefs of superiority,.

    A few suffer from paranoid personality disorder and narcissism .

    Sad really, they should look to getting help rather than spouting nonsense that just perpetuates their own fears.
    Well said piroska

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    Default Re: Hugh Perrett: TV1 presenters use of Maori phrases on TV

    [QUOTE=Roscoe;1314641]This is brilliant and I’m willing to bet that the Prime Minister doesn’t read it and news media don’t publish it ??? No because they will have their right to feed at the Government trough revoked. This is the sh1t foisted on us by the left wing academics who think they are Gods gift to the country.
    This guy in my view is spot on

    Of course the PM won't read it Roscoe why would anyone read beyond the first sentence. If there are any worthwhile points they'll be lost in the yelling and ranting.

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    Default Re: Hugh Perrett: TV1 presenters use of Maori phrases on TV

    I have no particular interest in Maori language myself, but I don't see why there's so much fuss and knee-jerk reaction to its use on T.V., radio etc.

    The Maori people are a distinct people who exist in NZ, and I think it's fair that their language be represented if they want it, in a country we share with them.

    As for the whole "Maori weren't the first, and they killed the Morioris" etc... I say.. so what?
    Why condemn an entire race of people now, for something their ancestors did (or didn't do) hundreds of years ago?
    Why should such historical actions invalidate their language and culture etc now?

    Should all Germans be condemned and hated just because Hitler was a psychopath? No, that would be just as stupid.

    I think it is rather racist to suggest that Maori shouldn't have their language used and represented in the country that they have lived in longer than we have.

    I also think it would do a lot of the younger Maori good to be more invested in their own heritage and culture, rather than copying the degenerate American 'gangsta' subculture shown on T.V. and elsewhere.
    Hopefully the increased usage of their own language in T.V. will get them to see that, and NZ as a whole can be richer for it.

    It's also quite ironically comical that some of you seem to take such offense at having "Maori rammed down your throats", just because you heard a few Maori words somewhere,
    Yet I'm sure the Maori of history would have been far more justified with the same sentiments back in the days of British settlers arriving in NZ, and having colonialism rammed down their throats, albeit in a far more violent manner.
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    Default Re: Hugh Perrett: TV1 presenters use of Maori phrases on TV

    I suppose the best thing you can say about Hugh Perrett's somewhat intemperate rant is that it provides a bit of light relief in these troubled times. Let's remember that Te Reo Maori is a living language spoken my many people (who can also speak English!) and it is part of the cultural heritage of our country.

    He is bothered by "having “Maori “ foisted on them every evening and rammed down their throats". Most people experience spoken language and other sounds through their ears, but if he possesses an anatomical anomaly causing him to hear via his mouth that could explain his upset. Or is he being forced to eat people of Polynesian extraction? That would be a violation of basic human rights on a par with the vaccination mandate-itis that is sweeping the country at the moment.

    At a time when the Russian military have bombed a children's hospital in Ukraine, we need to be reminded that we have problems here also.

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