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    Quote Originally Posted by CliveM View Post
    Logically once 100% of the population is vacinated only the vacinated will die.

    Very good Clive, you and my mate must attend the same Church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakewoodlady View Post
    Ooh, my most sincere apologies BM... my such bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliveM View Post
    Some of you must have watched far to many Zombie movies, Either that or actualy like spending your time being terrified by the worst case scenerios presented by our news media. It is never going to happen like that. We are all going to die one day that is absolutely certain no matter what steps you take to try and delay it.
    Why would you even take the risk when the mitigation is so simple for the overwhelming majority of people?

    Quote Originally Posted by CliveM View Post
    Logically once 100% of the population is vacinated only the vacinated will die.
    Yes, and the vaccinated will have a much better chance at survival by virtue of being vaccinated, as well as the likelihood of spreading covid dropping because you are vaccinated. It has been studied with the results available here, here, here, here, here, or here, all of which are either reputable sites or media sites that are citing reputable data and papers and come to the same conclusion- you are less likely to spread the virus if you are vaccinated.

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    I see a few of you here say the vaccine slows the spread of the virus. This is the only place I have seen this mentioned. Will one of you please provide a citation proving this.
    So far I have not seen this anywhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    I see a few of you here say the vaccine slows the spread of the virus. This is the only place I have seen this mentioned. Will one of you please provide a citation proving this.
    So far I have not seen this anywhere else.
    Literally above your message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    It is known that vaccinated people carry the same virus load as unvaccinated people.
    this is not quite true as you have not actually given the full quote.

    "A study shows that people vaccinated against coronavirus with the Delta variant had similar peak viral levels to those without vaccination."

    the bit you have left out is its "peak virus load". ie not total virus load that you mention and more importantly not the same length of time.

    as far as been able to spread, what matters a lot is the length of time of being infectious.
    shorter time means less people infected.
    Tweak it till it breaks

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    baabits cleaned my glasses and saw the links. Now to find the time to read them.
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    Please read them very carefully and please for goodness sake get the vaccine, I have a daughter and son in law in America . They live in North Carolina ... which has a population of 10 million people , twice the population of NZ....they are getting up to 29,000 cases per day. I am so very worried about them.... fortunately they have both been vaccinated .... ...��
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakewoodlady View Post
    I have a daughter and son in law in America .
    About time she came home. Never mind illness and the insane US medical bills...the place is crazy. Guns...etc.
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