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    psycik, you didn't read the article, it's not about cars, although Tesla is involved.
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    Fire is finally under control after three days:

    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...into-day-three
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    Quote Originally Posted by zqwerty View Post
    Fire is finally under control after three days:

    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...into-day-three
    Very interesting zqwerty.

    I note that this incident still has not been reported by the NZ Media, so am I to assume that the $50M Jacinda gave to the Media was “Hush Money” to not report anything that was contrary or damaging to Government Policy?

    It would seem it is now confirmed that normal fire-fighting protocols can’t be used in one of these fires and all that can be done is protect the surrounding area and try and stop the spread.

    And it looks like the Stock Market punters have heard about this Epic Fail because Neoen Shares have dropped 7.32%. Oh dear.

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    After psycik's comment I decided to look more deeply into car fires and guess what, Wikipedia has an entry for "Plug-in electric vehicle fire incidents":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-i...fire_incidents
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    Quote Originally Posted by zqwerty View Post
    After psycik's comment I decided to look more deeply into car fires and guess what, Wikipedia has an entry for "Plug-in electric vehicle fire incidents":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-i...fire_incidents
    That Link is getting historic and probably not a lot of use given as far as I can tell the end of the test period was about 2014.

    This bit got my attention though:

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    That Screenshot is a bit hard to read so I'll try again.

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    Plenty more petrol vehicles on the roads though and petrol fires can be put out.

    The fire problem in electric vehicles will get worse as the battery packs age and the individual cells lose capacity at uneven rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zqwerty View Post
    Plenty more petrol vehicles on the roads though and petrol fires can be put out.

    The fire problem in electric vehicles will get worse as the battery packs age and the individual cells lose capacity at uneven rates.
    Again I agree.

    One that I read in one of those links, (that is right out of left field), was one fire was caused by the vehicle being driven through Salt Water.

    Seems EV Beach Buggy's won't last long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.M. View Post
    Very interesting zqwerty.

    I note that this incident still has not been reported by the NZ Media,
    Thats because its hardly newsworthy . Do we expect to see news articles of every fire in the world , or every fire at power substations worldwide ?

    There is no conspiracy . If it wasnt made by Telsa , no one else in the world would care .
    Tin foil hats off everyone :-)

    As for electric car fires, its far too soon to be looking at %'s & stats. Wait another 5-10 years as things age & more cheap EV's are in use and we get more reckless idiots driving them .
    As they get cheaper , costs will be cut . No point in looking at markets where the NO1 EV is a very expensive EV. Look at the cheapies that will eventually be market leaders .

    And not every EV fire is caused by the batt . Just as my car fire wasnt caused by petrol (was caused by plastic engine parts falling onto exhaust )
    EV fires are harder to put out though , and can & do reignite several times . One recommendation given to fire depts was to simply let them burn themselves out .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1101 View Post
    Thats because its hardly newsworthy .
    Hardly Newsworthy Others didn't see it that way.

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