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    Default Defraggler

    I notice that the latest version of Defraggler (2.22.995) by Piriform seems to be 30 July 2018. I used to use it regularly n my old laptop.
    I did not install it on my new (Sept 2020) laptop as I wanted to "bed matters down'.
    When I just use Windows C drive Properties Disk Clean the volumes seem minimal. That gives me some unease.

    Should I reinstall Defraggler or can members suggest better alternatives?

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    Default Re: Defraggler

    What OS as I think Win10 doesn't need defragging

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    Defragging hasn't been necessary for years, windows does it in the background during idle periods and if you look at what's actually fragmented when you run a defrag it tends to be things that are rarely accessed.
    Yeah if a drive is particularly full and fragmented it can improve performance a bit, but generally that's not the case for most peoples home PCs. If you insist on defragging your drives why not just use the built in tool that is already there.

    And if you have an SSD you should never defrag it, all you are doing is shortening it's life a little and not improving performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dugimodo View Post
    And if you have an SSD you should never defrag it, all you are doing is shortening it's life a little and not improving performance.
    Win10 does actually defrag SSD's OCCASIONALY , and there was a good technical reason to do (cant remember why)

    Defragging mechanical drives can actually cause data loss (seen it) , if the defrag moves data into failing parts of the drive

    Generally the best bet , especially with Win10 , is to stop fiddling :-)
    Dont get conned by optimizing programs that are little more than snake oil .
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    Default Re: Defraggler

    Thanks for comments and yes i do have an SSD drive.
    I shall leave as is

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1101 View Post
    Defragging mechanical drives can actually cause data loss (seen it) , if the defrag moves data into failing parts of the drive .
    Any failing drive can/will cause data loss, if you defrag it or not.

    One reason why it's recommended to run scandisk/chkdisk before defragmenting. Although it seems Windows nowadays lets you run defrag by itself.

    Of course on a really bad drive, even running scandisk could kill it or lose data.

    That's why you have a backup. Right???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_24 View Post
    Any failing drive can/will cause data loss, if you defrag it or not.

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    nope , not if bad sectors are in non data area. A defrag can more data into failing parts of the drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1101 View Post
    nope , not if bad sectors are in non data area. A defrag can more data into failing parts of the drive.
    Technically, yes, but the presence of any bad sectors usually precedes more, or outright failure of the drive in short order.
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