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    This is the best video I've seen so far, the Mashhour is one of the biggest suction dredges in the world:

    https://youtu.be/jo_57uYfQmc
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    Good video...

    here's a diagram of what they did:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/56523659

    One large boat, for sure.
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    Here's a copy of text circulating on social media purporting to show how and why the accident happened:



    "Statement of Ever Given Master:

    Please note the below incident which occurred during vessel’s Suez Canal Transit (Southbound) on 11 Mar’21.

    Vessel picked up the first Pilot at 0424hrs before Canal entry and entered the Suez Canal (Port Said side) at 0530hrs.

    Before disembarking, the pilot requested for Ciggarettes which was politely declined by master stating the zero corruption policy implemented on board as per charterers. The pilot disembarked thereafter.

    First Pilot change (at Canal Entry) was from 0526hrs to 0534hrs.

    The 2nd pilot (Capt. Khaled) who barded the vessel was on board till Ismalia.

    The pilot was seeming a bit anxious during manoeuvring and on a few occasions tried to call out the helmsman for steering courses 0.2 degrees more than required. Master was present at all times and at no point did the helmsman execute a wrong helm order nor was any issue with vessel’s steering noted.

    Before disembarking the pilot requested for Ciggarettes which was politely declined by master stating the zero corruption policy implemented on board as per charterers.

    Second Pilot change at Ismalia from 1005hrs to 1013hrs.

    The 3rd pilot (Capt. Khalied Mohammed Hussain Hassane – ID No.1721201) after boarding the vessel exchanged a few words with the pilot who was disembarking (in their local language) as is the general practice in Suez.

    He refused to exchange pleasentaries with the Master and immediately after the 2nd pilot disembarked he said -

    Quote- “Captain, please take the ship and navigate through the canal. I am only here to assist and advise you as per Suez Canal rules.” -Unquote

    When questioned regarding what he meant by the same and if he will be giving helm orders and courses to steer, he said that master was fully responsible for the same and navigating through the canal. The pilots job was only to observe and advise as required.

    Please note that while this exchange was happening, the vessel was still underway in the convoy, passing bends and turns in the canal for which the helm orders were being given by Master.

    In the next 15-20 mins whilst manoeuvring through the canal, the pilot was politely, sternly and diplomatically requested to co-operate however he kept saying that the Master is supposed to handle the vessel. Additionally he said that the last pilot has handed over to him regarding issue with vessel’s steering, hence he will only observe.

    He was assured by Master that their was no issue with the vessel’s steering, something he could have observed in the 20 mins he had been on board; however he refused to co-operate.

    At that moment my focus as master was the safety of the vessel and the safe navigation (without any assistance from the pilot), alongwith ensuring the Bridge Team does not get distracted and therefore could not indulge in any detailed argument with the pilot.

    After about 20 mins of navigating through the canal (Near Ismalia) in an area where there were continous alterations and no steady course, with the pilot not giving any helm orders, and trying to harass the Master & vessel, the pilot was told that the matter will be reported to Ismalia Port Control.

    As soon as the master picked up the VHF and called Ismalia Port Control on Ch8, the pilot raised his volume high, started shouting, snatched the VHF from the master’s hand (which also resulted in advertently pushing the Master) and threatened that if same was reported “It will not be good for the vessel”.

    At that very moment, in his raised volume he called for fwd and aft stations and for both anchors to be lowered to water level, as he insisted on stopping the vessel and arresting vessel for faulty steering. He said vessel will be held at Bitter lake until sea trials were carried out.

    Fwd station was immediately manned however anchors were not lowered as ship was doing 9 knots speed."

    TLDR: the text is saying that because bribes of cigarettes were not offered as is standard in Egypt in such matters three separate successive pilot staff collaborated together effectively withdrew labour and the Captain lost the plot.
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    I'd believe that.

    Was exciting though.

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    In the Suez Canal the Master of the ship is always in charge of the ship but can take advice from whoever, the Captain is always responsible for the ship and whatever happens, however in the Panama Canal the Pilots take over the steering of the ship and hold all the responsibility whilst they are on board.
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    This morning I saw a spoof picture of how the boat was refloated . It showed the land occupied by a new pyramid made up of all the containers that had been on the ship.
    I do not know how to paste picture files on this forum otherwise I would have done so.
    On a serious note in view of all the expressed concern re Climate change why does the world keep building ever larger behemoths such as this ship and the monstrous cruise liners?
    Auckland was considering ruining the inner harbour to make it easier for these huge cruise ships to navigate. One of the few good factors of Covid is that the near death of the Cruise industry has put an end to such ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil F View Post
    On a serious note in view of all the expressed concern re Climate change why does the world keep building ever larger behemoths such as this ship and the monstrous cruise liners?
    Auckland was considering ruining the inner harbour to make it easier for these huge cruise ships to navigate.
    Well if the climate change doom merchants are right what is is left of the human race will have to live on them when the earth disappears under water.

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    Humans love to assign blame but it's a damn big ship and skinny waterway.
    Like threading a needle. **** happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johcar View Post
    Just thought it would be polite to let you know the the Canal is now somewhat wider in places and I've had to hire every Tug and Suction Dredge available.
    Global Warming is Mann made.
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