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    But the best to come out of the Great Depression was the planting of all those pine forests in the middle of the North Island, who by you ask, all those people out of work.

    If I remember rightly, they lived under canvas, may be corrected on that.

    And what did we do, chopped them down, NZ Forest Products became big business out of them.

    What's SHAW now saying about cows having to be reduced, mainstay of our economy: cows and tourism.

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    What Shaw said is we need to chop down pine trees and plant natives, but then he said we need to replace coal boilers with ones that burn pine, the same pine he wants to get rid of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary67 View Post
    What Shaw said is we need to chop down pine trees and plant natives, but then he said we need to replace coal boilers with ones that burn pine, the same pine he wants to get rid of.
    Native trees like Tane king of the forest, a Kauri that was here when Jesus was born. Now that's the way to go.

    What are we going to do in the meantime, there was mention of more foresty going to !!, you guessed it, China of all places.

    Good to see England wants to join our South Pacific free trade bunch!!, India would have been better, they worship cows so much trade there.

    Gary,, what are they going to replace all those pine trees up your way with, ngai tahu have started and replaced their forests with dairy cows.

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    Like a lot of politicians Shaw is not capable of joined up thinking. For example we ban mining coal and the use of gas in NZ but now have to import Indonesian coal to at great expense to keep our electricity generation going. We're going to get rid of fossil fueled vehicles without the faintest idea of how we can generate enough electricity to charge the batteries of all the electric vehicles that are to replace them. The Green Party kicked out the only real environmental members they had and appear to have been reduced to a lot of busy bodies who have no real idea about much at all.

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    I don't know what Shaw and Jacinda are on, but I want some if I'm going to keep up.
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    Along the same lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliveM View Post
    For example we ban mining coal and the use of gas in NZ but now have to import Indonesian coal to at great expense to keep our electricity generation going. We're going to get rid of fossil fueled vehicles without the faintest idea of how we can generate enough electricity to charge the batteries of all the electric vehicles that are to replace them.
    It isn't banned and we still export quite a lot.
    Stats are available on import/export if you care to search.

    The cars...well I agree that's dumb but the world is doing it and NZ must copy...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by CliveM View Post
    The Green Party kicked out the only real environmental members they had and appear to have been reduced to a lot of busy bodies who have no real idea about much at all.
    thats about right. most ideas coming out of the green party are complete BS. unfortunately that works against real environmentalism.
    we see the same with other groups as well.

    the interesting things about the vehicles is, what extra cost will it put on work related vehicles?
    there is no electric vehicle alterative for many work vehicle's.
    you could very easily see prices going way up as extra cost is added to each step.
    Tweak it till it breaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweak'e View Post
    thats about right. most ideas coming out of the green party are complete BS. unfortunately that works against real environmentalism.

    And that is exactly the problem.

    We now have a few genuine environmentalists who have been completely outnumbered and overrun by complete Dorks and there is little they can do about it.
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