I Can Remember............

[B.M.]

[Lurking]

But the best to come out of the Great Depression was the planting of all those pine forests in the middle of the North Island, who by you ask, all those people out of work.

If I remember rightly, they lived under canvas, may be corrected on that.

And what did we do, chopped them down, NZ Forest Products became big business out of them.

What's SHAW now saying about cows having to be reduced, mainstay of our economy: cows and tourism.

[gary67]

What Shaw said is we need to chop down pine trees and plant natives, but then he said we need to replace coal boilers with ones that burn pine, the same pine he wants to get rid of.

[CliveM]

Like a lot of politicians Shaw is not capable of joined up thinking. For example we ban mining coal and the use of gas in NZ but now have to import Indonesian coal to at great expense to keep our electricity generation going. We're going to get rid of fossil fueled vehicles without the faintest idea of how we can generate enough electricity to charge the batteries of all the electric vehicles that are to replace them. The Green Party kicked out the only real environmental members they had and appear to have been reduced to a lot of busy bodies who have no real idea about much at all.

[B.M.]

I don't know what Shaw and Jacinda are on, but I want some if I'm going to keep up.

[B.M.]

Along the same lines.

[piroska]

For example we ban mining coal and the use of gas in NZ but now have to import Indonesian coal to at great expense to keep our electricity generation going. We're going to get rid of fossil fueled vehicles without the faintest idea of how we can generate enough electricity to charge the batteries of all the electric vehicles that are to replace them.

It isn't banned and we still export quite a lot.
Stats are available on import/export if you care to search.

The cars...well I agree that's dumb but the world is doing it and NZ must copy...........

[dugimodo]

I don't think our power companies are concerned about electric cars, they have planned growth anyway and it's just more money for them. I think they have much more than a faint Idea. Replacing the combustion engined vehicles in NZ will take a long time regardless so it's not an overnight issue.

I owned an electric car for a year and ended up replacing it because I wanted more range occasionally. I will be going back to electric once they have a decent range and are more affordable because apart from those two issues I personally found it better in every other way. It also added a whole $5 a week to my power bill for my work commute.

[B.M.]

Just wait until we get a few more electric vehicle and they’re involved in decent collisions.

Some will explode on impact, some when the tow truck tries to move them, and the emergency services won’t know what to do with the contamination.

[tweak'e]

The Green Party kicked out the only real environmental members they had and appear to have been reduced to a lot of busy bodies who have no real idea about much at all.

thats about right. most ideas coming out of the green party are complete BS. unfortunately that works against real environmentalism.
we see the same with other groups as well.

the interesting things about the vehicles is, what extra cost will it put on work related vehicles?
there is no electric vehicle alterative for many work vehicle's.
you could very easily see prices going way up as extra cost is added to each step.