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[kenj]

.... the golden ears brigade (Audiophiles.) Long chain oxygen-free copper speaker leads anyone?

Couldn't have done without mine. Came in handy for tying up the dog at times!

Ken

[piroska]

oxygen-free copper

Just looked that up.....really...

So also the tyre places selling you nitrogen instead of normal air.

Sure normal air has some other bits in it...but has it not occurred to anyone that that nasty oxygen still affects the outside of the tyres?

[Agent_24]

I thought the nitrogen in tyres scam was supposed to magically save fuel, just like the clip on magnets for fuel lines...

[piroska]

Apparently:

Claimed benefits and our comments

Reduce tyre wear by up to 50%
Correct tyre inflation is the main factor with tyre wear, not what you inflate the tyre with.

Nitrogen molecules are bigger than oxygen molecules, and hence your tyres will leak less
Motorists pump "atmospheric air" into their cars tyres normally, which consists of 79% nitrogen. Consumer Magazine did a 12 month test of this, and had trouble measuring the difference between the two it was so small.

Nitrogen will improve the car's ride
Nitrogen and "atmospheric air" have almost exactly the same compressibility, since atmospheric air is 79% percent nitrogen.

Nitrogen will improve the car's fuel economy
Correct tyre inflation (and regular checking) will have the bigger impact on fuel economy. As will the use of your right foot.

Nitrogen will reduce tyre rot and corrosion
Take a look at the outside of any car tyre, which is continuously exposed to "atmospheric air" and you won't observe tyre rot.

Says AA

[wainuitech]

Another thing....you keep stressing the 5% thing. So what exactly do you print because this is 5%:Attachment 10619

I print full pages, mix of black (mostly) with a wee bit of colour.

The 5% is manufactures statement, obviously depending on what's printing will be either more or less %. If I were to guess when printing something in color , like a map of where I have to go, the coverage would be closer to 95%.

Most of mine are black, My job Sheet -- So looking at the picture attached below, mines similar in sizing to this, so what % would you say that is ?



As for actual page counts -- The onboard counter in printers will be a lot more accurate than someone actually physically counting prints.

[piroska]

So looking at the picture attached below, mines similar in sizing to this, so what % would you say that is ?



As for actual page counts -- The onboard counter in printers will be a lot more accurate than someone actually physically counting prints.

50%.
In which case you get a good page count.
The onboard counter isn't always available. Like the printer I have now. There is no machine button thing to print a page count (unlike the epson), and the via desktop only shows droplets...utterly useless. But I'm doing it the hard way, I know what I print and thus we;ll see how long a cartridge lasts me this time.

So far not too bad....really old printer though.

Just so sick of buying new printers and having issues. Most weren't ink, it was fatal errors........but nah.....I'll stick with this thing until it dies.........probably next week, LOL

[wainuitech]

50%.
I'll stick with this thing until it dies.........probably next week, LOL

Now Now dont temp fate. Had an old HP once that sounded like it was going to fall apart, but printed nicely, that eventually lasted for another couple of years before I finally changed it, it still went but the inks which were a Tri Cartridge and got to expensive. $129 for the color 400Pages. AND it simply refused to work on either refilled or "Compatible" Cartridge's.

[B.M.]

For years now I have used Canon Inkjets and simply refill the cartridges myself.

Easy as, after you've done a couple.

When a print-head finally burns out, or whatever they do, I spend $30 odd on a new printer that uses the same cartridges, keep the cartridges, and dump the printer.

A Cartridge is good for 3+ refills and the savings go towards refreshments for me.

[Agent_24]

For years now I have used Canon Inkjets and simply refill the cartridges myself.

Easy as, after you've done a couple.

When a print-head finally burns out, or whatever they do, I spend $30 odd on a new printer that uses the same cartridges, keep the cartridges, and dump the printer.

A Cartridge is good for 3+ refills and the savings go towards refreshments for me.

Ain't capitalism grand?

[piroska]

For years now I have used Canon Inkjets and simply refill the cartridges myself.

When a print-head finally burns out, or whatever they do, I spend $30 odd on a new printer that uses the same cartridges, keep the cartridges, and dump the printer. )

A $30 printer has cartridges which run out in 5 minutes (based on the amount of printing I do), so refill or not, it's not economical.
I've had Canon........they were the ones that died.

The first, rollers.......the second had a printhead error......it was 4 months old. Meh.
They're all the same...whatever brand.

HP, I went off them cause the bloody things would say they were all empty as soon as black was....there was a class suit about it in the US.