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    Some people just don't like the facts and prefer their own ideas instead.

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    What I find fascinating is the insanity of how much money is spent globally on things nobody actually needs, like Coca Cola.

    Imagine if all the time and energy and marketing and money spent producing such junk food was spent on something worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piroska View Post
    Some people just don't like the facts and prefer their own ideas instead.

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    The average Superannuant has contributed his/her share over 45 years or more, whereas the bludger’s have contributed nothing, and taken everything they can get their hands on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by decibel View Post
    AND paid a 60% tax rate on Saturday overtime in the 70s

    AND paid 18% interest on mortgages in the early 90s
    18% Luxury my second mortgage went to 25% thanks to the communist government at the time. Seems every time I went to the letterbox there was a increase in mortgage letter there. I had to get flatmates in and work in a restaurant after hours in Blenhiem Air Force pay not enough with my drinking habit. Thanks to rampant inflation though it wasnt so bad.
    Its amazing how Potatoes give us chips,fries and Vodka.

    Get your s*** together every other vegetable.

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    Son was in Woodbourne in 1988 for his initial training. Tooo late for you Prefect?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.M. View Post
    The average Superannuant has contributed his/her share over 45 years or more, whereas the bludger’s have contributed nothing, and taken everything they can get their hands on.
    Average? And some haven't.
    Likewise MOST beneficiaries end up on the dole for a short period, between jobs. NOt left school, sat on their arse forever as you continually imply.

    As for bludger...did I not say my brother has had 2 jobs in his life? For not terribly long...the first was about 2 years, the second about 10 I think...but that's it.
    The first was a factory (cleanup) job owned by someone he knew..the second was where my dad worked, he had been headhunted and made my brothers employment a condition.

    Never mind my brother tried, he even did the same IT course I did, he got interviews after ...but the minute they saw him the excuses rolled in.

    Go complain about the companies and people that do that instead.

    Now of course he's doomed, his eyesight is nearly gone and he'll never have another job.

    Guess that lumps in to your "bludger" category, doesn't it.
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    If you look at the bell-shaped curve for society in general, there are people with above average abilities and gifts, the top of the curve, most people in the middle of the curve with average abilities, and the lowest part of the curve which is composed of people destined to struggle to keep up plus the "genetic defect bulge" where there are quite a number of individuals with various handicaps and impediments.

    The mark of an advanced humanitarian society is to help all within the society and try to find a place for everyone so that all can feel that they are contributing in some way to the common good, if it increases the market, hence creating jobs, then being given a benefit and using it to consume/stay alive is a valid occupation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.M. View Post

    The average Superannuant has contributed his/her share over 45 years or more....
    Nope, they havnt contibuted enough to cover their pensions .
    They havnt contributed enough to cover what the govt spent on their behalf. Hence all the debt that the next generations will be paying off.

    The super/pension relies on future generations paying for it.
    So the next generation of workers, will paying for the old govt debt , and the super/pension of the oldies who racked up that debt, and paying the pensioners hospital expenses .

    Super/pension is WELFARE . Its not something they paid for . No different than anyone else on welfare , someone else is paying for it.
    Why should I get Superannuation , if Im sitting on a $1Million house (just an very av 1960s small house) .

    It will all come crashing down soon enough, the ratio of workers to those on benefits (incl super) will get so low it will no longer be sustainable .
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    You know the welfare system has become a nonsense , when someone I know , who's wife is on a good salary, was getting govt handouts (family support or similar).
    they saved those govt handouts to help pay for family trips to Aus .

    Unsustainable .
    it all needs to be rolled back, incl super to those who dont need it, incl those who hide assets in trusts .

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    Quote Originally Posted by zqwerty View Post
    The mark of an advanced humanitarian society is to help all within the society and try to find a place for everyone so that all can feel that they are contributing in some way to the common good
    Yes.
    What a pity we don't live in one.

    My brother was and is capable of many things, even with his sight issues now. But no, they look at him and treat him like ****.

    Even me now, I'm in the old lady category, therefore I'm stupid, IT illiterate and not worth bothering with.
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