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    In the Herald today.


    Conspiracists say lasers and exploding smart meters used to start bush fires to make way for a new train network
    By: Ben Graham and Peter Bodkin

    Thousands of Australians appear to believe lasers and exploding smart meters are being used to start our bushfires to make way for a new train network.

    A Storyful investigation with news.com.au has found the conspiracy theory has spread far and wide on social media — with "directed-energy weapons" (DEWs) posts being shared tens of thousands of times in the past few weeks.

    Those who believe the theory say the bushfires in this unprecedented season are being started using weapons which harness the focused power of technology such as lasers or microwaves, news.com.au reports.

    And, many of the posts claim the fires have been deliberately started by a shadowy global elite in order to clear land for a high-speed rail network from Brisbane to Melbourne.

    The deadly bushfires have also been seized on by networks of local and international conspiracy theorists, many of whom claim the fires are part of UN-led global plot to depopulate the world and seize control for a one-world government under the guises of climate change.

    As part of this wider conspiracy, theorists believe the alleged high-speed rail network will force all of us into big cities where we can be controlled by the government.

    Posts to Facebook show bright lines — supposedly laser beams — emanating from unsourced and unverified pictures of Australia's bushfires to back up their argument.

    The admin of one of the largest Facebook conspiracy pages wrote that residents in bushfire-affected communities say forests around their homes "just exploded out of no-where".

    Theorists have also been sharing maps that show parallels between the locations of the fires and the supposed high-speed rail network.

    One blog post from a fringe conspiracy theory site State of the Nation linking the bushfires to the "global warming hoax" has made a huge impact on social media.

    The article titled 'OPERATION TORCH AUSTRALIA: A Special Report on the Geoengineered Firestorms and DEW-triggered Arson Fires' claimed to draw "striking parallels" between the fires and previous wildfires in California.

    The post, alongside others from the site linking the Australian fires to directed-energy weapons, had been shared thousands of times on Facebook.
    They were spread through a network of local and international pages, many of which were themed around deep state conspiracy theories, chemtrails or 5G networks.

    And it's not just Star Wars-style lasers they reckon are starting the fires.

    In one case, a Facebook user whose profile said they lived in Byron Bay shared a post to the Stop 5G Mid North Coast group with the comment: "Smart meters can be activated to explode."

    One of the most active pages in Australia sharing conspiracy theories linking the fires to directed-energy weapons and various alleged government plots has been the Higgins Storm Chasers page which, despite having only around 10,000 followers, generates thousands of shares and reactions for its posts.

    Several of these posts claimed to display evidence of energy weapons being used in the fires – such as photos of trees burning on the inside – with one post adding it showed "geoengineering not climate change".

    While Facebook has moved to crack down on misinformation around some topics such as vaccinations, there appears to be little stopping the spread of conspiracy theories surrounding bushfires on the platform.

    Similarly, conspiracy theories around the fires have flourished on YouTube, with some videos also running ads on the platform, allowing channels to make money while spreading misinformation around the bushfires, including that they were designed to make way for a planned high-speed rail link between Australia's cities.

    Australian conspiracy theorist Max Igan, who has generated nearly a million views for his series of videos decrying the "Australian Holocaust".

    In one, Mr Igan claimed that an unspecified cabal had been "spraying this country with accelerants" while also deliberately drying the continent to create "the perfect storm".

    "They're going to blame all this on climate change … they intend to genocide this country," he told viewers.

    The video had been shared more than 12,000 times on Facebook alone.

    Dr Will Grant – a senior lecturer in science communication at the Australian National University – believes these theories were being spread by the far right.

    "The theory aligns with ideas there's a deep state (a clandestine government) out there armed with secret weapons," he said.

    Dr Grant believes it is gaining traction because of the "extreme" polarisation between the political left, often associated with city living, and right, often associated with rural living.

    "This high-speed rail conspiracy comes out of the idea the left and the government want us to live in cities with a smaller carbon footprint and closer to work, and many on the left say this is a good thing," he said.
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    I read that briefly yesterday. Showed a map that compared the layout of the railway track with the bushfires. No doubt it's bollocks, but it was creepy ...

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    Believe any nonsense rather than face the facts.
    It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by zqwerty View Post
    Believe any nonsense rather than face the facts.
    I agree. The fact is that Global Warming is a red herring
    Instead look at a bit of history.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushfires_in_Australia
    "Plants have evolved a variety of mechanisms to survive or even require bushfires"

    "fire is one of the most important forces at work in the Australian environment. Aboriginal people used fire-stick farming to burn vegetation to facilitate hunting and promote the growth of bush potatoes and other edible ground-level plants. In central Australia, they used fire in this way to manage their country for thousands of years.[4] Flannery writes that "The use of fire by Aboriginal people was so widespread and constant that virtually every early explorer in Australia makes mention of it. It was an Aboriginal fire that prompted James Cook to call Australia 'This continent of smoke'." "

    "Australia’s climate has warmed by more than one degree Celsius over the past century"
    approx 1degree over 100years . Hardly what some would have us believe
    :-)

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    http://www.bom.gov.au/state-of-the-climate/

    "Australia's climate has warmed just over 1 °C since 1910 "
    thats from the horses mouth.

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    Australia's problem is that it is covered (well almost) in "hand grenades" - Eucalyptus trees.

    Get rid of those tress in residential areas and you will alleviate the risk of damaging killing fires
    I worked for everything I have. Most successful people have done the same thing.
    No, you aren't "entitled" to it. Too damn bad, Get it the way I did.
    WORK FOR IT.

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    Might upset the koalas a bit though.
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    The average Human is not particularly bright and the bottom 50% are a lot worse than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliveM View Post
    The average Human is not particularly bright and the bottom 50% are a lot worse than that.
    Interesting. I wonder where the PCWorld IT people fare?
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    In the Herald today.

    Conspiracists say lasers and exploding smart meters used to start bush fires to make way for a new train network
    By: Ben Graham and Peter Bodkin
    Last edited by WalOne; 16-01-2020 at 03:30 PM.

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