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    Default Re: Impeachment Report Says Trump Solicited Foreign Election Interference

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    And what's the bet that this POS will be re-elected come November 2020 - unless of course someone doesn't put 1/2 an ounce of lead into his head first.
    I'm quite surprised no-one has tried the lead fix so far. the US being what it is....
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    Default Re: Impeachment Report Says Trump Solicited Foreign Election Interference

    As they say "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story".
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    Default Re: Impeachment Report Says Trump Solicited Foreign Election Interference

    this sums it up nicely
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr...ne_controversy
    "In October 2019, whistleblower reports revealed that U.S. President Donald Trump, his lawyer Rudy Giuliani and top Trump administration officials asked the government of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden – Trump's possible opponent in the 2020 presidential election – and his son Hunter Biden, reportedly in exchange for U.S. military aid to Ukraine."

    so , whats the problem then, If theres no dirt on Biden or his son .
    If Biden had been doing dodgy stuff , then whats the problem about asking for that to be looked into.

    So Trump asked Ukraine to investigate possible dodgy deals .

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    Default Re: Impeachment Report Says Trump Solicited Foreign Election Interference

    I repeat, since quite a few don't seem to be getting it:

    'found the president “placed his own personal and political interests above the national interests of the United States.”'

    “The founding fathers prescribed a remedy for a chief executive who places his personal interests above those of the country: impeachment,”

    Furthermore: Mr. Schiff wrote. “But perhaps even more corrosive to our democratic system of governance, the president and his allies are making a comprehensive attack on the very idea of fact and truth.”

    I'm quite surprised that anyone would support this gibbering Alzheimer's suffering orangutan after all he has been caught doing in his term in office and also knowing what he has been up to in the past and who he has been associated with including Jeffrey Epstein.
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    Default Re: Impeachment Report Says Trump Solicited Foreign Election Interference

    Legal experts testify Trump actions are impeachable:

    https://play.stuff.co.nz/details/_6113023604001
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    Default Re: Impeachment Report Says Trump Solicited Foreign Election Interference

    Trump was with-holding millions of dollars in aid for the Ukraine to buy military hardware from the States to defend against Russia effectively extorting the Ukrainian Prime Minister unless he investigated Biden.

    This is what is meant by placing his own interests above the interests of the United States.

    I thought this was well-known.
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    Default Re: Impeachment Report Says Trump Solicited Foreign Election Interference

    Quote Originally Posted by zqwerty View Post
    Trump was with-holding millions of dollars in aid for the Ukraine to buy military hardware from the States to defend against Russia effectively extorting the Ukrainian Prime Minister unless he investigated Biden.

    This is what is meant by placing his own interests above the interests of the United States.

    I thought this was well-known.
    Do you think that the USA public have no right to know if Biden (possible next president) and or his son are beholden to a the Ukraine?
    The fact that may well be of personal interest to Trump is beside the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliveM View Post
    Do you think that the USA public have no right to know if Biden (possible next president) and or his son are beholden to a the Ukraine?
    The fact that may well be of personal interest to Trump is beside the point.
    Yes that.

    Why ignore Biden threatening to with-hold millions in aid to the Ukraine . Essentially the same thing.
    Thats part of what Trump wanted investigated .
    Note : investigate. Nothing more . Not unreasonable .

    There are often selfish political reasons for these sort of things . Thats how things have allways worked internationally .
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    Default Re: Impeachment Report Says Trump Solicited Foreign Election Interference

    Feldman: If we cannot impeach a president who abuses his office then "we live in a monarchy or we live under a dictatorship"

    https://edition.cnn.com/politics/liv...4b607f171b23e3

    CliveM & 1101 it doesn't matter what Biden has done, Trump is the president and has been using his power for personal gain over the best interests of the United States, this is not hard or too subtle to understand, Trump is a disgusting corrupt rip-off businessman and should have never been made president, case closed, he's for the high-jump and so he should be.
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    I can’t believe there are still people around that take a “Blind bit of Interest” in what the Media report.
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