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    The damage has been done, my heart goes to the victims.

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    To my mind, this green grab says it all:

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    Corrected ... to my mind, this screen grab says it all (Spell check strikes again!)
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    Nah wall, green grab sounds better.

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    Having watched pretty much every episode of Air Crash Investigation, I note it's never one thing.
    It's a series of them.

    Something, fuel quantity wrong, sensor blocked, whatever it may be. Then warnings sound, plane misbehaves etc.
    Pilots then react.
    Well, or badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piroska View Post
    [...] I note it's never one thing. It's a series of them.
    Absolutely right. I was indirectly involved* in the fatal crash of a commuter aircraft in Gulfport, Ms. There were a series of about 12 separate issues some minor, each of them innocuous and each incapable of resulting in the cash of the aircraft on its own. But as part and parcel of a train of events, and more correctly, a particular sequence of events, there was only to be one outcome, sadly culminating with the loss of 15 lives.

    involved** I had resigned as Director of Operations on safety issues one month prior to the event. The FAA went so far as to say had I had still been there, the crash would not have occurred. But that is little comfort to those who lost their lives or their families, and I take no personal satisfaction from that conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piroska View Post
    Having watched pretty much every episode of Air Crash Investigation, I note it's never one thing.
    It's a series of them.

    Something, fuel quantity wrong, sensor blocked, whatever it may be. Then warnings sound, plane misbehaves etc.
    Pilots then react.
    Well, or badly.
    You are right aviation accidents are usually a chain of events and not one single catastrophic failure. Pilots now days can not seem to sense airspeed as pilots did in the old days. Its not the planes its the pilots they dont have the feel in their backsides.
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    It wasn't the stick pusher shoving the nose down, it was the weight of the pilot and 1st officer's wallets dragging it down.
    (More powerful than the conveyor belt.) ;-)
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    I would have thought that raising the engines with respect to the centre of gravity would have made the plane have more of a tendency to fly level rather than gain height and stall as compared to the original model. This can't be the reason that the MCAS was put on.

    Having the engines lower, as in the original model, would have put more of a turning moment around the centre of gravity and lifted the nose.
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