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    They are adding an all apps button to the start screen which will help mouse users like myself get to it a little easier. Almost replaces the start button.

    I can see myself changing the default file associations to use desktop apps rather than metro ones though. I think the new apps are cool individually but they are not as user friendly for multi tasking and multiple screens in my opinion and while switching between them is not difficult it's a little slower when a metro app is involved in my opinion.

    I do plan to bite the bullet and change completely at some point, as long as I have dual boot I'll never fully adopt 8.

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    Bringing back the start menu will probably encourage more people to make the switch to windows 8.
    I think its a smart move to bring it back

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    If SP1 or whatever its called is free, I may think about reinstalling Win8 again. Only things it didnt work with were Paintshop Pro. It worked for so long, then kept telling me something had been modified. When I tried to run it. And I couldnt use it. And the cam app stopped working if I installed the videocard drivers

    It doesnt matter if SP1 adds the start button back or not. Classicshell does a good enough job. At least it lets you boot to the desktop, and can bypass the metro screen. And the lock screen and the login screen can easily be killed / disabled

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    Are there too many spoon fed monkeys on pf1?

    I like W7............ but i cant really comment on W8 cos ive only used it in the shop...... wasnt put on me new machine, but i dont mind. im ok with W7 as i said...
    but i think with Micro soft its upgrade and fade out of perfectly working progs is dumb......

    im not offended at all....im just another spoon fed monkey apparently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales View Post
    If SP1 or whatever its called is free, I may think about reinstalling Win8 again.
    Microsoft are effectively dropping service packs now. 8.1 will be an upgrade much like how Apple does it with OS X. I'd expect the update to be cheap ( ~$25 ) and usual price for those buying OEM or full retail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autechre View Post
    Microsoft are effectively dropping service packs now. 8.1 will be an upgrade much like how Apple does it with OS X. I'd expect the update to be cheap ( ~$25 ) and usual price for those buying OEM or full retail.
    That just proves Windows 8 sales are miserable, or they'd be giving it away free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wainuitech View Post
    Many people who complain about W8 either have only had a go at it for a VERY short time, or not at all, or are to stupid to learn something new. .
    This is the case with most people, in fact they are in worse situations. They haven't even tried Windows 8 for themselves yet, only read the apparent reviews, rumor, misgivings, and gossip about Windows 8 that it is hard to believe that anyone would actually buy a Windows 8 PC after hearing all that. I heard all that, but I had to decide for myself. And now here I am with a happy Windows 8 PC, and am probably better off than all of my friends, whom have chosen to stick with the 'acceptable' Windows 7, and thus I am seen as the black sheep. But, who said that I wouldn't benefit from this? While I have a faster OS than all of my friends, with intergration through all of my devices what am I to lose?

    And, even Apple hasn't thought of an idea to match this integrated idea of UI. They have tried with their expose view, or something, but that hasn't come as far as Microsoft has decided to tread. Concerning this matter, IMO I think that business and enterprise user should embrace Windows 8, give their employees WP devices, and even a Surface, wouldn't that sort out the problem of people in these companies having to learn a new interface, when they are immersed in it all day? They are the ones that didn't take up on this missed opportunity, and they are probably paying the price. (and for those still using XP, I mean it, not just metaphorically.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_24 View Post
    That just proves Windows 8 sales are miserable, or they'd be giving it away free.
    Not really, looking at MAC's their upgrade pricing is cheap enough snow-leopard - Only $25

    So by the comment sales are Miserable, meaning its a failure, that would put MAC's in the same boat ?? -- I think a few MAC operators would disagree there
    At the moment nobody knows what the cost will be for 8.1, or if its charged, or free if you already have W8 -- Its all speculation at the moment.

    Edited: just found this:
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    TBC. There are no details on pricing, but Windows Blue is expected to be low-cost much like Apple’s yearly Mac OS X upgrades, which retail at $30 per licence.


    Read more: http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-softw...#ixzz2SXxzyDf0
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    Well I decided to bite the bullet and stay entirely in windows 8 for the weekend starting friday. With some of the tips I've learnt from these forums I have to admit it's growing on me. I guess my biggest gripe now is there are no visual indicators to show you how to do things so you have to use help or google how to do things for a while until it becomes familiar. I lasted until sunday afternoon no problems at all, switched back to 7 just because I haven't installed all my games on 8 yet.

    The sticking point now is I installed 8 on my old 120Gb SSD and 7 is on my newer faster 256Gb SSD so going back to a single OS means some drive shuffling and probably reinstalling and re-activating 8 again. I tried cloning 8 from a hdd (from my first trial install of 8) to the SSD it's on now and that failed to boot I think because 8 ties itself to the drive it's installed on and when I re-installed it the media centre key de-activated windows so I had to ring MS. No real drama just not in a hurry to do it again.

    I'm thinking I'll Image my windows 7 install onto a spare drive for storage, wipe the 256Gb SSD and start again with 8. Any one know if it's easy to do a clean install of windows 8 with the upgrade version or if I should leave 7 on so that 8 sees something to upgrade? If I do go over top is there an option to wipe the drive completely as part of the install? I'd rather start over than install over top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dugimodo View Post
    I'm thinking I'll Image my windows 7 install onto a spare drive for storage, wipe the 256Gb SSD and start again with 8. Any one know if it's easy to do a clean install of windows 8 with the upgrade version or if I should leave 7 on so that 8 sees something to upgrade? If I do go over top is there an option to wipe the drive completely as part of the install? I'd rather start over than install over top.
    Not sure about 8, Windows 7 let you do a clean install with an upgrade key as long as there was an eligible OS installed (XP or Vista) - it checked for an OS before formatting. Assume 8 is the same. (My copy of 8 is a full version.)
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