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    Hi Guys and Gals
    I have reached the stage where I have so many CDs, (400+ and over 100 Lps), that locating and playing tracks is becoming an issue.
    What I would like to do, is rip them all to a media device in full CD quality, (192 MP3 just isnít good enough) and then have the software, to locate, select, and play back via my HiFi at the same quality as my current CD player.
    Googling has given me a truckload of info, too much in fact, and I am hoping that someone has already gone down this track and can give some advice on where to start. Hereís hoping
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    If the stereo supports MP3 make a few MP3 cd's. You'll get 300-400 on one CD (depending on the size of the MP3 files)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales View Post
    If the stereo supports MP3 make a few MP3 cd's. You'll get 300-400 on one CD (depending on the size of the MP3 files)
    He said he wanted CD-Quality NOT MP3s...

    I would use FLAC as that is CD-Quality (and in fact it can be higher quality if your source isn't a CD) and is also open-source, free, no DRM, etc etc.

    For storage and playback of 400+ CDs ripped to FLAC format I would suggest a small and preferably silent computer, because for 400+ CDs in FLAC you would need around 160GB of storage space
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    Sound the same to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales View Post
    Sound the same to me


    Mp3's sound crap and are not CD quality.

    FLAC is the way to go, and is sometimes better than cd quality.
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    Might also want a disc library/cataloger, so as to quickly find certain tracks on CD's that you may want to copy back to a pc. I used disclib, others reviewed here. Media Monkey is a good overall organizer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales View Post
    Sound the same to me
    I used to say the same thing.. but not any more. Highest-quality VBR MP3 is not bad but overall MP3 or similar stuff is still nasty compared to CD or FLAC.

    Remember MP3 is a lossy format and information is discarded to keep filesize down, just like JPEG, while FLAC does lossless compression, so nothing is lost.



    Years ago, I used to download a lot of MP3s. I used 128k bitrate as I had dialup at the time.

    But recently, I've got a lot of the same music on CD now, and after listening to the CD versions a few times, then going back to the MP3 you can straight away see just how bad it really is.

    It doesn't help if you have cheap speakers but even so you should notice.
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    Thanks for the replies so far.
    Yep MP3s are not the best.
    From what I have read, not only is the bit rate down but also they tend to chop off the highs and lows to save on size as well. This tends to give a mushy tone to the music. OK on my PC 5.1speakers but crap on my "spectacular"(in my opinion) PSB speakers. I want full CD rate sampling and am quite prepared for a couple of very big drives. Quality of the source, is the start point to good music.
    It looks like this project is going to take a lot of research. The software for the "Juke box" would seem to be the most important, and then the hardware to store and then play out to my amp (Yamaha).
    Thanks again for any info

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    I guess the software also depends on what you want as an information display as well.

    HTPC software on a computer works great if you're using your TV or a monitor, but if you want something that will blend in with your stereo equipment you will need something else.

    You can get some HTPC cases which have an inbuilt 7" or so LCD screen that can be used in Windows etc, that might be useful. (but quite expensive!)

    There are also small LCD\VFD modules which can run on your PC and display filenames etc but for navigation through 400+ albums would get a bit tedious on a small display.
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    I use a program called J. River media centre to manage my library of music and video files which unfortunately isn't free... J. River do however offer a free program 'media jukebox' here which is essentially the same program without video support. I reckon it's perfect for what you what to do as it has support for basically every audio format under the sun plus the interface looks great and somewhat resembles itunes with about 20x the power and functionality.

    As I have a lot of 320k mp3s it's been my experience that with most music you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between 320k mp3s and the original cd or flac rip even on decent speakers with a discerning ear and I'm someone who can't understand people who go around calling 128k files 'high quality' trying to tell others there's no point in anything higher.

    Although in saying that when I listen carefully to music that has a decent amount of dynamic range I notice cds and flac files have just that little bit more 'sparkle' to the higher frequencies and the space between instruments is slightly more defined.

    I notice you didn't say what you plan on using as an audio transport to your yamaha amp. If you haven't figured it out already, given the option either hdmi or optical out are cheapest and probably the best (depending on your amps internal dac if any).
    Another somewhat more expensive option is to get a dedicated sound card, such as the Asus xonar st which has rca outputs and is priced @ around $300 plus about $100 for the multichannel addon board, all up is about the best analog soundcard you can get for music.
    Otherwise you could get an external 2 channel rca DAC that connects via optical or usb but be prepared to pay around $700 although you could easily pay several thousand if you're after something REALLY good.

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