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    Default Kane Williamson Into Black Caps

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/cricket/ne...ectid=10634012

    Do you think it's too early for him to play against the likes of Ponting, Clarke, Johnson etc?

    Personally, I think it's a good opportunity for him but it's going to be tough considering he will be facing 140+ km bowlers and may bowl occasional off spin against batsmen with averages around 50.

    Peter Ingram, Shannon Stewart and James Franklin do exceptionally well domestically but fail to do well internationally.

    This would be my line-up for the second test

    1. McIntosh
    2. Watling
    3. Taylor
    4. Sinclair
    5. Guptill
    6. Vettori
    7. McCullum
    8. Williamson
    9. Southee
    10. Arnel
    11. Martin

    12th Man - Patel

    So here, we have a strong batting lineup. 3 strike fast bowlers, 1 full-time spinner (Vettori) and 2 part-time spinners (Williamson and Guptill)

    We shouldn't put Williamson at the beginning as we don't want him playing too early if our opening batsmen do get out early.

    What do you guys think?
    Last edited by vims213; 25-03-2010 at 08:54 AM.

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    Default Re: Kane Williamson Into Black Caps

    wat.

    No way should someone as promising as Williamson be forced to debut against Australia, after losing the first test by ten wickets. It's just not fair on him. I love how you've decided to swap out a bowler for a batsman too btw. Our bowling was no way in hell good enough to afford to drop a bowler. Yes, our batting was abysmal, but our bowling was worse.

    Also, Sinclair at 4? What's wrong with you? Calling Guptill a part-time spinner is also ridiculous. The guy can occasionally bowl an over of pies, but he's not exactly part time material.

    Patel or Franklin will come in for Tuffey depending on seam/spin friendly pitch conditions. Maybe Sinclair for Ingram if one of the selectors uses his brain for once.
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    Default Re: Kane Williamson Into Black Caps

    Lol at putting Taylor at 3. I just can't understand what you're trying to do there... He's always been a 4 or 5 batter.

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    3rd position  	2009-2009  	1  	1  	0  	16  	16  	16.00  	57  	28.07  	0  	0  	0  	2  	0  	view innings
    4th position 	2007-2010 	19 	31 	1 	1367 	154* 	45.56 	2155 	63.43 	3 	6 	0 	185 	16 	view innings
    5th position 	2007-2009 	7 	9 	0 	360 	120 	40.00 	665 	54.13 	1 	3 	0 	54 	1 	view innings
    Yay he's batted at 3 once, when we played Sri Lanka and were chasing 413 in the final innings. They mixed the order up completely to try something different and we were bowled out for 210.

    Yay, let's repeat the Taylor at 3 experiment!

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    I've been banned in the past for posting what I think of people so if I answer this question I'll probably get banned Creighton styles finally.
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    Code:
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    3rd position  	2009-2009  	1  	1  	0  	16  	16  	16.00  	57  	28.07  	0  	0  	0  	2  	0  	view innings
    4th position 	2007-2010 	19 	31 	1 	1367 	154* 	45.56 	2155 	63.43 	3 	6 	0 	185 	16 	view innings
    5th position 	2007-2009 	7 	9 	0 	360 	120 	40.00 	665 	54.13 	1 	3 	0 	54 	1 	view innings
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    Default Re: Kane Williamson Into Black Caps

    Dude, I'm not a professional selector. It's just my own opinion.

    .............No wonder you got banned.

    The line up is a rough estimate and I we don't have a strong top order considering the middle/lower order scored most of the runs in the 1st test.

    The bowling wasn't horrendous, we just don't have strong fast bowlers like Bollinger, Harris and Johnson. If Shane Bond was still playing test matches, our bowling lineup would have been a little better.

    Also if Styris still played Test Matches, we could take out Sinclair and put Guptill in at number 3 and Taylor at number 4. Styris will go at number 5.

    You may be right about Williamson regarding playing his first test against the Aussies. He could be useful in playing in tours. But putting him down the order with the likes of McCullum and Vettori who have both played over 50 test matches can guide Williamson and take any pressure off him to score quickly.

    I still respect Sinclair as a test batsmen. I watched both his double hundreds and they were amazing. He does have his bad days but it's the same as any other batsmen.

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    Default Re: Kane Williamson Into Black Caps

    Quote Originally Posted by vims213 View Post
    The bowling wasn't horrendous, we just don't have strong fast bowlers like Bollinger, Harris and Johnson. If Shane Bond was still playing test matches, our bowling lineup would have been a little better.
    wat.

    Our bowlers took 3 wickets (4 if you count the stumping) for 565. If that's not horrendous I don't know what is.

    Quote Originally Posted by vims213 View Post
    Also if Styris still played Test Matches, we could take out Sinclair and put Guptill in at number 3 and Taylor at number 4. Styris will go at number 5.
    Yes that would be fantastic.... If only someone could talk Scotty back into the test side. God knows we need him.

    Quote Originally Posted by vims213 View Post
    You may be right about Williamson regarding playing his first test against the Aussies. He could be useful in playing in tours. But putting him down the order with the likes of McCullum and Vettori who have both played over 50 test matches can guide Williamson and take any pressure off him to score quickly.

    I still respect Sinclair as a test batsmen. I watched both his double hundreds and they were amazing. He does have his bad days but it's the same as any other batsmen.
    I will be very interested to see the final eleven. I sincerely hope Sinclair comes in for Ingram, he really deserves another run. Williamson could well perform. He's in currently in good form and I agree with the idea of batting him low down the order if he is selected. Also playing at his home ground would be a good way to debut. I'm warming to the idea of him playing. Will see what happens.

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    Default Re: Kane Williamson Into Black Caps

    they've added james franklin to the squad, what a load of good he'll do.

    he's been in horrendous form
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    Default Re: Kane Williamson Into Black Caps

    Actually scratch what I just said, it's a green pitch, Williamson definitely won't play.

    Line up is

    McIntosh
    BJ
    Sinclair
    Boss
    Guppy
    Danny boy
    Baz
    Franklin
    Southee
    Arnel
    Martin

    imo.

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    Default Re: Kane Williamson Into Black Caps

    I thought nz cricket was made to embarrass the rich kids??

    Or have they won a game?
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    Default Re: Kane Williamson Into Black Caps

    What are you on about rob? Cricket is the best spectator sport in the world. Especially test cricket.

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