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GameJunkie
30-10-2008, 10:19 PM
I am looking to upgrade my grahics card from a paltry 128MB ( i know what your thinking!) to an asus card http://www.elive.co.nz/asus-8400gs-silent-512mb-hdtv-sy1249.php

my question is do i need to upgrade the cooling systems or anything else?

current specs are : AMD athlon 3800+ cpu, 1GB(512*2) DDR2 memory, Nvidia Geforce 6150SE, 160GB HDD, 19" screen, Vista Premium.

thanks in advance,

kersonan
30-10-2008, 11:01 PM
yeah with that one being passively cooled i'd definitely be making sure case cooling was up to scratch, especially if you intend gaming on it.

perhaps you might want to consider a 9 series card instead. 9600 cards are pretty good value for money.

GameJunkie
30-10-2008, 11:10 PM
how are the 9 series better than the 8400GS??

memphis
30-10-2008, 11:32 PM
Seeing as you call yourself GameJunkie,then if you plan to use that graphics card to play games then its no good.

I would get either of these to play games properly the way they are ment to be played in rich detail and high/max settings.

Check out www.pricespy.co.nz (http://www.pricespy.co.nz) for computer parts.:clap

ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB graphics card $468.00

or

Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 896MB $464.91

Also a faster cpu::clap

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+, dual core, socket AM2, 3GHz $154.13

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+, dual core, AM2 3.2GHz $223.70

AMD Phenom X4 9950 quad core 2.6GHz $381.38

Also you need to get 2 gig of ram,2 x 1 gig sticks ddr2 800 ram if you are running a 32 bit windows.

1GB DDR2-800 PC6400 SDRAM $23.94 :clap

If you are running a 64 bit windows then you can check how much ram your motherboard will let you have,2 gig,4 gig,8 gig,16 gig. by reading your motherboard manual or finding your motherboard from the motherboard makers website and seeing how much ram it wll let you have.

2GB DDR2-800 PC2-6400 SDRAM $43.16 :clap

2x 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM $102.09

This will give you a really good computer to play games and everything else as well,faster/more responsive day to day computing etc.:)

memphis
30-10-2008, 11:51 PM
how are the 9 series better than the 8400GS??

Go to www.tomshardware.com (http://www.tomshardware.com) website and check out the latest performance charts for graphic cards easy as of course!!!

And the graphic cards I suggested are way better then the 8400GS and the 9 series!!!!
:thumbs:
:banana :clap

memphis
31-10-2008, 12:00 AM
Make sure your computer case has 120mm fans and can fit the ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB graphics card or Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 896MB graphic card,as they are pretty big graphic cards and take a bit of room up in your computer case and they can get pretty hot if you dont have good case cooling.

:) :thumbs:

GameJunkie
31-10-2008, 09:08 AM
thanks memphis for your detailed reply.
upon looking around i have come up with the following,

Asus 8500GT 1G PCI-E Video Card HDTV- $103.30
Corsair 2GB Memory (2x 1GB Kit) PC-5300 (667MHz), DDR2, non-ECC, Unbuffered- $59.30
AMD Athlon X2 5000+ Dual Core- $124.70

i am running the 32-bit version of vista so i thought i could add the next 2GB in dual channel as is the case with the two 512s giving a healthy 3GB of memory.

with these in mind is cooling still an issue?
and also would the power supply suffice??

pctek
31-10-2008, 09:13 AM
Asus 8500GT 1G PCI-E Video Card HDTV- $103.30


Its not even anywhere near capable:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Crysis-v1-21,747.html

Not even close. You want gaming, then get a decent gaming card. Thats what these benchmarks are for.

Thebananamonkey
31-10-2008, 09:27 AM
If you want to game on a budget, I'd suggest you get either:

9800GTX

8800GT

4850

9600GT

With a very strong preference to the 4850. But the 8800 is your best bet if you're on a serious budget.

The 260 isn't worth it IMO, if you want to spend a bit more, see if your MoBo supports a second 4850.

Q man
31-10-2008, 09:53 AM
Couldn't agree more

8800 and 9600 about the same performance and cost, great on a budget.

4850 for money and performance is fantastic.

On a seperate note, anyone got a benchmark link for 2X4850?

SolMiester
31-10-2008, 10:10 AM
He doesnt need a 4870 for a 19" 1440x900 resolution.....9600GT would be fine...

GameJunkie
31-10-2008, 03:29 PM
aaaargh, so many choices:waughh:, if i go for the asus 1GB gfx card, do i need to upgrade the psu??

Thebananamonkey
31-10-2008, 03:34 PM
Stop.

What's your budget?

What games do you play?

What sort of PSU?

I suggest when you upgrade that you get more RAM too. 2GB goes cheap these days.

GameJunkie
31-10-2008, 03:40 PM
200 at most , probably look at doing upgrades incrementally, ram first etc.
games: cod4, race driver grid, BiA HH,

psu: not sure what it is, any way to find out without opening case, have tried the net but not sure where to look

thanks

Thebananamonkey
31-10-2008, 03:49 PM
You could peep through the grill and see if anything tells you.

No harm in taking the side off. Can be annoying though.

I suggest you leave it and save up a little more.

You could afford a Geforce 8800GT at the moment, but an ATI 4850 is only $70 more, and will blow that out of the water. Fully worth saving up that little more.

Just thought I'd check first, but your MoBo does have PCI-Ex16 right? Would be silly for us to tell you to get something you can't put in your comp.

SolMiester
31-10-2008, 03:49 PM
Is your 19" LCD a 5:4 resolution or 16:9 (1440x900)?....96GT should be fine....I certainly would waste your money with anything less!

GameJunkie
31-10-2008, 03:53 PM
SOlMieter: i think it is 16:9

GameJunkie
01-11-2008, 05:14 PM
looking on newegg.com i have summised that i have a 300W psu.

I assume that this will have to be upgraded for the grx, ram etc to run smoothly.
ideas on how much Wattage that it should be increased to?

thanks for all your help and ideas so far.

Thebananamonkey
01-11-2008, 10:40 PM
~500W should be plenty for a single GFX card system.

qazwsxokmijn
01-11-2008, 10:45 PM
I don't know if it's available yet, but it seems the new Radeon 4670 is on par with an 8800GT, which is still a great card. And at only $155, you can't go wrong.

GameJunkie
02-11-2008, 06:54 PM
will look into it

thanks again:clap

GameJunkie
02-11-2008, 06:59 PM
have found a psu
http://www.elive.co.nz/antec-500w-bp500u-powersupply-ac0016.php
looks like a good 1:)