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hoanikai
24-07-2008, 01:40 PM
hello folks

have recently aquired a reasonable pc from an oe bound workmate that is to go to my god son
on the surface it comes up good when fired up tho the win xp is illegal
checked the system with recuva and found the seller had removed a lot of files that are unsuitable for young eyes
am worried that the eventual recipients inquisitive tech nature may find them

1. is there a good quality freeware to permanently remove unwanted deleted files or do i have to buy it, if so what is recommended

2. is there a cheap way of legitimising the win xp

any suggestions would be appreciated

nofam
24-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Not really an easy/cheap way to legitimise XP - does the PC not have a Certificate Of Authenticity (COA) attached to the case with a license key??

To permanently delete the files, download & install CCleaner from here (http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/). Tick all the options down the lefthand side, then go to options, settings and activate the Secure Deletion option, setting that to NSA (7 passes).

Then go back to the Cleaner screen, shut down any open programs, run an Analyse, and then click Run Cleaner.

Forgot to mention, the scan also includes emptying the recycle bin (still with the secure deletion option) so it will permanently remove anything there too that's already been deleted from other folders etc

hoanikai
24-07-2008, 02:43 PM
thanks nofam

COA is for earlier XP home edition
it appears with my limited knowledge someone has crashed it in the past and installed a new 120G HD and the uploaded Win XP pro with Sp3 updates

as for the cc
it is installed i will try what you suggested
and make another post

nofam
24-07-2008, 02:47 PM
Cool - hopefully Wainuitech/Wratterus/Speedy et al will be along to give you the why's and wherefore's on how many components you can change in a PC before Windows throws a sulk :D

hoanikai
24-07-2008, 02:57 PM
thanks again nofam
have done as you suggested with the on board cc (updated it first)
but when i check with recuva all the not wanted files are still there

wratterus
24-07-2008, 02:58 PM
COA is for earlier XP home edition
it appears with my limited knowledge someone has crashed it in the past and installed a new 120G HD and the uploaded Win XP pro with Sp3 updates

I hate it when people do that! :crying :p

You have the COA, but unfortunately it's for the wrong version of Windows. Service pack versions don't normally matter.

It's up to you what you want to do - you could leave it as it is - or you could back up any important data, wipe the hard drive (If you completely wipe it - that will solve both problems) and the install XP Home. Obviously if you don't have the XP Home disk, you're up poo creek, but you can always borrow someone else's, then install the PC drivers, Sp3 and all the windows updates.

I'd tend to go with that option, also means he gets a nice fresh install of Windows. :thumbs:

Edit - mate, only JUST beat you to it as well! :p

bevy121
24-07-2008, 02:58 PM
If it was me, I'd format the drive and do a nice clean install of xp home using the COE on the machine.

I know - it's a bit of work, but you're godson will start out with a nice clean and fresh very responsive system.

You'd need a XP home disc to do the install, but shouldn'd be hard to find if you don't have one yourself.

You can use anyones - it's the COE serial that you need to authenticate it.


*EDIT*

LOL wratterus - snap again! ;)

Blam
24-07-2008, 03:09 PM
Not sure if this method works with SP3:
Link to Key removed

wratterus
24-07-2008, 03:13 PM
Not sure if this method works with SP3:
[edited out quoted URL]

Forum rules. ;)

5) Subject Matter: Asking for, or giving advice on how to pirate software will not be tolerated. This includes posting links to sites where Warez, no-CD hacks, keygens etc can be found. And yes, this also covers advice on how to illegally gain access to a commercial service, such as Sky TV.

http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?p=580139

hoanikai
24-07-2008, 03:13 PM
hey wratterus & bevy121

sounds good advice

as i understand it i should do the following

1. backup up all programs & files i think necessary for his use
2. totally wipe hard drive (Q.how do i go about that?)
3. install XP home from disk
4. install PC drivers (Q. not sure what you mean by that-although ben may know)
5. check for and install updates

hope i've got it right

wainuitech
24-07-2008, 03:17 PM
What Wratterus said
It's up to you what you want to do - you could leave it as it is - or you could back up any important data, wipe the hard drive (If you completely wipe it - that will solve both problems) and the install XP Home. Obviously if you don't have the XP Home disk, you're up poo creek, but you can always borrow someone else's, then install the PC drivers, Sp3 and all the windows updates.

As long as you have the COA, then use another XP home CD, deleting the partition, then recreating it in the options when booting from CD will for all intense purposes remove any sign of previous data.

You will need to open the case and find out the Motherboard make and model, download the drivers, unless its a name brand and then go to the manufactures site and get drivers. - Clean install always better, may take a bit longer, but worth the time.

If a data recovery expert wanted to they could prob get the data back, but unless you have the tools and knowledge - It's all's gone.

hoanikai
24-07-2008, 03:25 PM
cheers wainuitech

seemingly understand it
have to go out now for a few hours
will check postings again later this evening

thanks everyone for all your help and direction
obviously a cheap deal on a second hand pc is not always what it seems
especially for this late starter

wainuitech
24-07-2008, 03:36 PM
heres what to do, I'm doing it to a customers PC and writing at the same time ( different PC of course :p )

Save all data you dont want lost to another media - CD/ External drive.

Load in the PC, shut down and then boot, press any key when booting from CD when asked.

Boot from CD ( you'll see drivers loading)

You will get a screen, top one says -- To set up windows Press Enter--

Press Enter

Press F8 to agree to licence

At this time it will find your Old OS, Press ESC to carry on

C: Drive should be selected

Press D to delete the partition

Press Enter

Press L

Press Enter

Select bottom Option Format NTFS

Press Enter -

Windows will now format the drive, and load windows - go make a cuppa and wait - follow onscreen instructions as they appear. Should take around an Hour.

feersumendjinn
24-07-2008, 03:39 PM
This should help
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

hoanikai
24-07-2008, 03:40 PM
just noticed your posting wainuitech as i was about to walk out the door
many thanks for your time and knowledge
will get stuck into it later tonight or tomorrow
cheers

Chilling_Silence
24-07-2008, 03:56 PM
Quick way to check if its legit (As it sounds like it may not be): http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/default.aspx?displaylang=en

I agree, a clean install would be the safest way to make sure something un-expected doesnt "appear" at any point in the future...

wainuitech
24-07-2008, 04:02 PM
Slight Typo -
Load in the PC, shut down and then boot, press any key when booting from CD when asked.
Should have been Place CD in Drive, shut down >>>>>>>>>

you will see the "Press any Key" down the bottom left corner, keep an eye for it, as it doesn't stay visible for long, if you miss it, reboot from CD and start again - but be quicker :D

Sherman
24-07-2008, 04:44 PM
Slight Typo - Should have been Place CD in Drive, shut down >>>>>>>>>

you will see the "Press any Key" down the bottom left corner, keep an eye for it, as it doesn't stay visible for long, if you miss it, reboot from CD and start again - but be quicker :D

In other words it gives you a whole 5 seconds to decide...

wainuitech
24-07-2008, 05:02 PM
In other words it gives you a whole 5 seconds to decide...
Yep Roughly

Morgenmuffel
24-07-2008, 05:10 PM
1. backup up all programs & files i think necessary for his use


You can back up files, but not already installed programs

Chilling_Silence
24-07-2008, 05:40 PM
Except you dont want *all* files backed up, some are files you *want* to potentially leave behind, such as R18 materials no doubt in this case ;)