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theob
18-06-2008, 06:18 PM
could'nt find any recent threads on this, so here goes.
I've looked at Samsung- very nice and more pricey.
Viewsonic slightly better cost, does 5 ms really matter vs 2 ms?
and what about AOC- good prices, specs appear ok...
thinking 2nd hand, but the prices they go for on trade me begs the question why bother?- I have seen a few Samsungs go for 30 -40 bucks less than the new price on Pricespy...
all comment welcome!:)

wratterus
18-06-2008, 06:21 PM
Viewsonic over samsung.

Viewsonic are very nice monitors with great warranty terms.

As long as 5ms is the real response tine - off on off not just off on, you'll be sweet. I think pretty much all Viewsonics are the off on off response time.

jwil1
18-06-2008, 06:32 PM
I've just got a brand new 22" ViewSonc VA2226w yesterday.

Avoid AOC if at all possible. The AOC I was looking at was $385 - and when I looked at it in person it had very noticeable colour fringing. That turned me off AOC for life!

$400 from Ascent - I'm stoked! :punk

5ms response time - IMO not much diff between 2 and 5ms - although I don't play hardcore games :)

EDIT Sorry, couldn't resist (http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/P6170483.JPG) :) It's a bit tidier now, had to pull everything off it so I could fit the screen on it

utopian201
18-06-2008, 06:43 PM
Sorry, I dont know about 22" screens. what will you be using it for? Games or things where color accuracy is important? I think response time is no longer an issue; the more important things are input lag, viewing angles and colour accuracy. Also what is your budget?

If games are important to you, get a screen which uses a TN panel. They have less input lag, but have poor viewing angles, colour reproduction/accuracy and contrast.

If image quality is more important, get an MVA or S-PVA screen, or depending on your budget, an IPS screen. These screens have superior viewing angles, better contrast ratios and significantly better colour reproduction, which approach CRTs

The best 22" is probably the Lenovo L220x, it is an S-PVA screen. It is the only 22" screen in the world which has 1920x1200 resolution. But at over $1100, it is more expensive than high quality 24" screens.

I'm waiting on an updated Dell 24" 2408wfp; it is a flawed screen, for sure, but the new revision coming out in a few weeks should fix the issues. Dell monitors are generally pretty good, and they have frequent cash off discounts. They are the persian rug warehouse of computers.

Thebananamonkey
19-06-2008, 09:58 AM
I'd go for the VX2240W if I were you. $20 more than jwil1's and it's 2ms and 4000:1. Costs $420 at Ascent.

In fact, regardless of whether I were you or not, I'm buying it tomorrow. I'd say it's the best 22" on there, if you don't want 3d glasses, speakers or iPod docks.

theob
19-06-2008, 12:03 PM
thanks all- let me know how the new Viewsonic goes... cheers

memphis
19-06-2008, 08:20 PM
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Thebananamonkey
19-06-2008, 09:00 PM
That's a little unuseful without prices. And so many redundant details and buzzwords.

They call it 10000:1 Contrast, but I've heard that's because they have an incredibly self-serving way of measuring that. I can't see it standing up to much professional scrutiny.

utopian201
20-06-2008, 10:27 AM
That's a little unuseful without prices. And so many redundant details and buzzwords.

They call it 10000:1 Contrast, but I've heard that's because they have an incredibly self-serving way of measuring that. I can't see it standing up to much professional scrutiny.

That is most likely to be dynamic contrast ratio. Most users turn dynamic contrast off as it is annoying (it darkens the screen during dark scenes and brightens it during bright seens, giving the impression of more levels of contrast)

trinsic
20-06-2008, 12:35 PM
I've just got a brand new 22" ViewSonc VA2226w yesterday.

Avoid AOC if at all possible. The AOC I was looking at was $385 - and when I looked at it in person it had very noticeable colour fringing. That turned me off AOC for life!

That's a shame. Because AOC are the panel suppliers! I would never trust a store to correctly configure a LCD monitor. They don't generally come out of the box perfect either as my AOC 210v looked a bit washed out and after using a new colour profile made from the Spyda for colour correction it was just awesome.

I now have a pair of G2110Ws from BenQ. They're pretty good and well worth the money as they're 21.6" instead of 22". What this means to the customer is it is 1.8% smaller but 10% cheaper. The size is indistinguishable as the monitor remains the same size yet the screen is slightly smaller (so you get a bit more bezel).

theob
21-06-2008, 03:10 PM
there's some one selling viewsonic 2226w's for 280 on trademe. they are obviously returns-sold with one stuck pixel. would it drive you nuts or is it quite bearable, if not centre screen? thanks again for the opinions, viewsonic starting to edge out samsung...

wratterus
21-06-2008, 03:52 PM
there's some one selling viewsonic 2226w's for 280 on trademe. they are obviously returns-sold with one stuck pixel. would it drive you nuts or is it quite bearable, if not centre screen? thanks again for the opinions, viewsonic starting to edge out samsung...

http://blog.gwax.com/2006/01/03/unsticking-stuck-lcd-pixels/

This works sometimes.

Tukapa
21-06-2008, 04:50 PM
I've just bought this

http://www.aocmonitor-anz.com/lcd_monitor/2217pwc.php

And it's very nice (regardless of the earlier comments about AOC)

$352 at http://www.softwareshop.co.nz/

Good company to deal with as well.

:2cents:

Thebananamonkey
21-06-2008, 05:56 PM
I got my 22" Viewsonic VX2240W today. And I love it.... It's just beautiful.

Haven't played any really demanding games on it yet, just BF2, but I love it.

For $420, 2ms, 4000:1, and an awesome warranty, I think you'd struggle to find a better deal. Unless you go to pp.co.nz, where you'll get it for $407 or something. Lol

Also, kudos to ascent, I ordered it yesterday and got it at 9:30 this morning. How's that for service?