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RWC2011
24-05-2008, 04:42 PM
I am looking at getting a Internet Security suite - includes Antivirus and Spyware checker and firewall

I have read many sites including PC World site on what they recommend as No 1 and there so much disparity in what each site recommends. I wonder why theres no general consensus on a particualr one?

PC world recommends Norton Antivirus 2008 while others recommends Kaspersky or Bit Defender.



I dont mind paying. I need one which is fast enough and doest not hog your system down and also obviously good at detecting and cleaning viruses and Spyware. It doesnt have to have fancy interface as i am not worried about ease of use and neither do i care about Customer support from vendor.


What do you recommend is ideally the best out currently in terms of just performance

thanks

nofam
24-05-2008, 04:47 PM
Kaspersky or NOD32 - my preference is Kaspersky, but either will do you proud.

When you say performance, are you referring to the impact on your system, or the detection/removal rates? Both aspects are important for real-world use.

You'll also want to invest in a standalone spyware removal tool - I'd suggest Spyware Doctor from PC Tools.

Speedy Gonzales
24-05-2008, 04:48 PM
Get Comodo / the firewall (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/download_firewall.html) and Avast Home / AV / Antispyware / Anti-rootkit (http://avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html), theyre both free.

If you go through the forum here / do a search for Nortons / Symantec, thats one thing its good at. Hogging resources.

jwil1
24-05-2008, 04:49 PM
DO NOT get Norton AV. You could not pay me to run it on my computer.


This is why you should not get Norton's. (http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showpost.php?p=666238&postcount=9)

Get something proper like Eset Nod32 Antivirus or Smart Security (http://www.eset.co.nz), or if you want a free one, Avast Home Edition (http://www.avast.com).

radium
24-05-2008, 04:53 PM
I agree with Speedy. I run Comodo and Avast. I have no problems.

RWC2011
24-05-2008, 05:22 PM
This is what i mean some say Norton Hogs PC but PC world NZ
http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/reviews/A6BDB8C4E033C775CC2573F600706A8C

gives Norton No 1 thumbs up and doesnt even mention system slowness Norton causes...are Symantec paying PC world for endorsing.....lolzz

RWC2011
24-05-2008, 05:29 PM
ok after seeing those links and posts by Wratterus i am def not going with Nortons!!!! Period....coz that spyware hijacking and "task manager disabled" is exactly what i got on my old PC running Norton 2006 (with latest def)...and hence i am getting a new PC now

Agent_24
24-05-2008, 05:35 PM
Comodo firewall all the way.. and their antivirus soon once they release the new version!

But if you want to pay then Nod32 or Kaspersky for antivirus

Otherwise for free try AntiVir, AVG8 or Avast

SurferJoe46
24-05-2008, 05:44 PM
This is like asking what the best color is for painting your house.

First point: Let's NOT hear of any cures or potions by going to a Linux-based OPSYS/DISTRO!. :angry



Everybody hates purple houses (Nortons) and most like Avast or whatever...but the ONE biggest good thing to do is get behind a physical firewall like a router.

I have an arsenal of things to cleanse and purify puters, but rarely do I need any of them myself..however.... there have been times!

Suggestions:

AFTER the physical firewall in good order is to run ONE antivirus, ONE software and stay out of bad places.


Run something like AVG-Free v8.0 and disable the site sniffer. It will self-update.
Get SpyBot and keep it up to date..but don't run Teatimer. It won't self-update.
Keep RootKitBuster or something like it (a registry cleaner) for when you need it. I have it and AVG AntiRK for just..well...because!
Get CCleaner..it is a good thing to keep the wheels lubricated.
Get HJT for when you need to get Sir Speedy to help clean your system out for you.


CBO is OK....but a little hog-y and I don't really know of it is fast enough to keep you safe.

I also use the Windows Defender Firewall in SP-2..it works and with the router, I am pretty safe. It isn't the whole answer however. M$ loves you!

But..be sure to run something like aida32 or Belarc Adviser BEFORE you have any troubles...it is nice to have had the keys to the system if it all falls apart. Print out the results and save them like a birth certificate or a marriage license. They are important!

But the general consensus is that you will hate your puter if you use any of McAfee/Norton/Symentec services.

So far..with the exception of the router, all the preventative stuff is FREE!

RWC2011
24-05-2008, 05:45 PM
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RWC2011
24-05-2008, 05:48 PM
thanks surfer....

i really need one suite to protect without the hassel of remembering to run each one i.e the simpler the easier for me.


OK one question , those spyware (smithfraud) caught by Nod32 in Wratterus posts, will they be caught by Kaspersky also ????

cheers

SurferJoe46
24-05-2008, 05:50 PM
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password
24-05-2008, 05:53 PM
i would go for nod32 smart security, DO NOT GO NORTON!!! IT NEEDS TO BE BURNT!!!

SurferJoe46
24-05-2008, 05:56 PM
thanks surfer....

i really need one suite to protect without the hassel of remembering to run each one i.e the simpler the easier for me.


OK one question , those spyware (smithfraud) caught by Nod32 in Wratterus posts, will they be caught by Kaspersky also ????

cheers

Kaspersky is outa my realm..I had it for a while years ago..but dumped it for a free system...after all I am cheap....

SpyBot S&D will kill it as will a lot of other stuff...it's not so hard to do...but you gotta remember that a lot of malware disables your security stuff..so you gotta check from time to time...and update...UPDATE...UPDATE

You be running all along, thinking you're safe but you are hacked and spewing all sorts of trash: porno, money laundering or just being zombied for spammers.

Isn't the internet fun? and don't EVEN get me started on Internet Exploder and other things M$ like LiveChat and such...

Do you Yahoo? Don't!

Speedy Gonzales
24-05-2008, 06:06 PM
And from Symantec themselves (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2308131,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121)

password
24-05-2008, 06:10 PM
He pictures a security suite that doesn't impact system performance at all—even one that makes the computer run faster. And he hopes Norton Internet Security 2009 (http://www.pcmag.com/topic/0,2944,t=Norton%20Internet%20Security,00.asp) will be that suite.

Haha i will belive it when i see it lol XD

Agent_24
24-05-2008, 06:45 PM
And from Symantec themselves (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2308131,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121)

:lol: I just scared everyone by laughing like a madman when I read the first paragraph...

SurferJoe46
25-05-2008, 03:13 AM
I don't see how cloud-scanning would work...after all there's too many variables...and to use a WHITE cloud isn't even practical....who'd man the list and keep it relevant to the individual's system?


Scanning is another slow process; the team strives to vastly increase scanning speed by using a huge whitelist of known good programs "in the cloud". Downloading updated signatures can also cause a periodic performance hit, so they invented a new type of streaming definitions. According to Trollope, they've made well over 300 individual changes specifically to improve performance and filed a number of patents on this new technology.

"We're not there yet," admitted Trollope. "We're still working on it."

Suppose someone wants to go to someplace new and different...it looks like the same ol' problem of toast and warnings would make their product look like ZA.

Nope...until they get speeds past double what they have now and with a firm link for updates that are almost instantaneous, then they are all pipe dreaming.

Or maybe, when you bought their high priced system, they'd also include a few extra Gig of RAM for every user.

Here's the catch..read this between the lines:


Trollope explained that Symantec is in the middle of a three-year push to invent a completely new type of protection against malware.

....it's the money, stupid...it's the MONEY!

SurferJoe46
25-05-2008, 07:29 AM
08:13 till now at 13:32 (GMT-7 or so) and still no retort?

C'mon guys!

BTW: The clock's slow again....that 50 hertz stuff just doesn't work!

pctek
25-05-2008, 09:21 AM
I am looking at getting a Internet Security suite - includes Antivirus and Spyware checker and firewall


All in ones, do not give you complete protection.
Avoid Nortons and if you do go with a suite, always, always have some other stand alone antispyware as well.

I'd just get an AV, a firewall and at least 2 antispywares separately.

rob_on_guitar
25-05-2008, 09:30 AM
DO NOT get Norton AV. You could not pay me to run it on my computer.


This is why you should not get Norton's. (http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showpost.php?p=666238&postcount=9)

Get something proper like Eset Nod32 Antivirus or Smart Security (http://www.eset.co.nz), or if you want a free one, Avast Home Edition (http://www.avast.com).

:horrified

Holy crap! Those pics in the link are pretty out of it!

SurferJoe46
25-05-2008, 09:59 AM
I tried that first internet link and got this..can youse guys speak this?

How's about READING it?


O software next-generation da anti-ameaça de NOD32 de ESETligação para mais informação em ThreatSenseprotege computadores de encontro aos vírus, aos sem-fins, aos Trojan, ao spyware e ao adware. Sua liderança da tecnologia prima nas áreas mensuráveis da deteção dinâmica consistente do malware, da velocidade da varredura, e do baixo sistema aéreo.

NOD32 é o único produto que não faltou um vírus em--selvagem em 46 testes separados sobre 9 anos pelo compartimento independente principal do boletim do vírus da autoridade da pesquisa do vírus [Reino Unido].
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rob_on_guitar
25-05-2008, 10:06 AM
They are just saying "this is a test on dog toast, pass me the butter mr marshmellow man!"

Word for word! :lol:

RWC2011
25-05-2008, 08:34 PM
All in ones, do not give you complete protection.
Avoid Nortons and if you do go with a suite, always, always have some other stand alone antispyware as well.

I'd just get an AV, a firewall and at least 2 antispywares separately.



I think i will go with Kaspersky.

Is this link genuine?

http://url remove by a mod coz it is too good to be true.com/

The discounts seem bit too good to be true? If this is genuine and not a scam as i think then i will get it from here unless someone can suggest a cheaper place to get kaspersky from.

Thanks

Speedy Gonzales
25-05-2008, 08:47 PM
If it looks too good to be true it probably is.

I wouldnt get it from there. If it doesnt appear, or take you there from the Kaspersky site, forget it.

password
25-05-2008, 09:13 PM
I think i will go with Kaspersky.

Is this link genuine?

http://.....com/

The discounts seem bit too good to be true? If this is genuine and not a scam as i think then i will get it from here unless someone can suggest a cheaper place to get kaspersky from.

Thanks


NO it is not. Here is the genuine site, http://www.kaspersky.com/index.html

Here is the site anlysis for your Scam link (http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/kasperskysale.com?domain=kasperskysale.com&ref=safe&client_ver=FF_26.5_6265&locale=en-US&premium=false&client_type=FF&aff_id=0)

Renmoo
25-05-2008, 10:05 PM
Speedy: It says Avast free edition now bundles anti-spyware and anti-rootkit. I have downloaded and installed the package, but I have no idea how to launch those two utilities.

Cheers :)

RWC2011
25-05-2008, 10:08 PM
NO it is not. Here is the genuine site, http://www.kaspersky.com/index.html

Here is the site anlysis for your Scam link (http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/kasperskysale.com?domain=kasperskysale.com&ref=safe&client_ver=FF_26.5_6265&locale=en-US&premium=false&client_type=FF&aff_id=0)

Thanks - i am staying away from it.

beeswax34
25-05-2008, 10:45 PM
Speedy: It says Avast free edition now bundles anti-spyware and anti-rootkit. I have downloaded and installed the package, but I have no idea how to launch those two utilities.

Cheers :)

It says its built it. You dont have to start it.

Greven
25-05-2008, 11:02 PM
Speedy: It says Avast free edition now bundles anti-spyware and anti-rootkit. I have downloaded and installed the package, but I have no idea how to launch those two utilities.

Cheers :)

It has had anti-spyware built in for a long time - it was only AVG that didn't come to the party with built in anti-spyware capabilities until recently. I didn't realise they had anti-rootkit in the free version. That is good.

Renmoo
25-05-2008, 11:24 PM
It says its built it. You dont have to start it.


It has had anti-spyware built in for a long time - it was only AVG that didn't come to the party with built in anti-spyware capabilities until recently. I didn't realise they had anti-rootkit in the free version. That is good.
Oh, right. Cheers guys :)

Speedy Gonzales
26-05-2008, 12:42 PM
Avast has only had anti-spyware, and anti-rootkit protection since version 4.8.1169 came out.

As it says here under 4.8.1169 (http://avast.com/eng/avast-4-home_pro-revision-history.html)

As of March 29th 2008

Previous versions before 4.8.1169, didnt have anti-rootkit, or anti-spyware protection built in.