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JMoore
18-02-2008, 06:02 PM
Bit of a vague title but basically I'm looking to buy a new wireless router/AP with the functionality of being able to add an external hard drive and the ability to download via Bittorrent/FTP etc when the PC is turned off.

I understand that some models of ASUS WLAN routers have this functionality:
ASUS WL-700gE (has a 160/250GB hard drive preinstalled)
ASUS WL-500g Premium
ASUS WL-500W (802.11n)

As far as I can tell you can add a self powered USB hard drive to the latter two models to give the same functionality as the 700gE. Has anyone had any experience with any of these models or ASUS routers? Or can offer any advice or recommendations?

I was looking also at installing DD-WRT or OpenWRT firmware on it and wondered if anyone who had experience with either of these could tell me the difference between the two firmwares or recommend one of them.

Thanks in advance, JMoore.

Chilling_Silence
18-02-2008, 06:25 PM
Im not terribly familiar with this, however, depending on how much of a cut-down system either has, you could look in to TorrentFlux :)

beeswax34
18-02-2008, 07:04 PM
Also, consider Tomato firmware, I used to use an old version and it was fantastic. I din't like DD-WRT much, can't remember why.

JMoore
18-02-2008, 07:24 PM
Thanks for your replies. So does TorrentFlux require a cut down dedicated Linux box to run? Or is it a firmware? Any more info on this would be great...

Cheers, yea I also saw Tomato firmware as an option but don't have a lot of knowledge on the firmwares, thanks for the recommendation though!

beeswax34
20-02-2008, 01:13 AM
Thanks for your replies. So does TorrentFlux require a cut down dedicated Linux box to run? Or is it a firmware? Any more info on this would be great...

Cheers, yea I also saw Tomato firmware as an option but don't have a lot of knowledge on the firmwares, thanks for the recommendation though!

Nope, your definitely going to need a cut down linux box to run it with some packages like LAMP? and Apache installed. You can't run it on a normal router. Its not a firmware.

pender
24-02-2008, 01:12 PM
Bit of a vague title but basically I'm looking to buy a new wireless router/AP with the functionality of being able to add an external hard drive and the ability to download via Bittorrent/FTP etc when the PC is turned off.

I understand that some models of ASUS WLAN routers have this functionality:
ASUS WL-700gE (has a 160/250GB hard drive preinstalled)
ASUS WL-500g Premium
ASUS WL-500W (802.11n)

As far as I can tell you can add a self powered USB hard drive to the latter two models to give the same functionality as the 700gE. Has anyone had any experience with any of these models or ASUS routers? Or can offer any advice or recommendations?

I was looking also at installing DD-WRT or OpenWRT firmware on it and wondered if anyone who had experience with either of these could tell me the difference between the two firmwares or recommend one of them.

Thanks in advance, JMoore.


Jmoore,

You are correct about the BitTorrent. Don't get TorrentFlux as it is difficult to compile, use transmission.

The Stock Firmware that comes with these routers has a built-in torrent client in them so for the wl-500Gx and wl-500W you just need a 3.5", 2.5" or USB Flash drive and it will format the disk and setup for BItTorrent (You can then turn off your LAN bridged PC and the download will continue on the Router HDD).

If you like the stock firmware, but want to customize it then try Oleg Frimware. It is essentially the stock firmware of Asus but has been tweaked and unlocked. There are a lot of packages for Oleg firmware too like transmission (a great bitrorrent client with a web interface), samba and firefly media server (iTunes DAAP Share) to name a few.

OpenWRT has fewer packages 100% working for the BCM947xx chip. Get the X-wrt Webif2 firmware for Openwrt.

http://oleg.wl500g.info/
http://x-wrt.org/ (OpenWRT)

If you want USB support, then choose either Oleg or OpenWRT as DD-wrt and tomato don't support USB host. You can recompile the latter two firmwares to enable USB support.

I have two wl-500GP's and would not recommend the wl-700 as it is expensive -though the HDD is internal and keeps things neat. USB powered HDD drives are not that bad though. If you want a pure router with great QoS and a great firewall without FTP/Bittorrent then get Tomato. If you want USB then I'd recommend OpenWrt. THe Oleg packages will work on OpenWRT, just add this repository in the WebIF2, or install using "ipkg install UrlOfPackage" from cmd. OpenWrt has great recovery features too.
http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/oleg/cross/stable/
To get transmission torrent working install this package first
http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=56791


This is a good guide for Oleg Firmware and Bittorrent. It is easy to follow and works.
http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=10307

As router, I'd stay away from DD-wrt as WiFi performance is sometimes unstable. DD-wrt is easy to use though, but you can't enable the JFFS2 partition on the flash ( it will crash the router) so you waste about 5MB of flash.

If you ever fear you brick your router (only applies to wl-500GP Thats the Premium version), this has bailed me out twice already. Proceed at your own risk.
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2507

pender
15-03-2008, 12:53 PM
Oh, my bad - dd-wrt supports USB and optware
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/USB
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/USB_storage
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Optware