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Tuneznz
19-01-2008, 10:35 AM
Hi there, im building a new computer (my first build) and am confused on what motherboard to get.

I will be using a AMD Athlon 64 Socket AM2 dual core 3GHz, Inno3D 8600GT 1GB Video Card (nVidia), WinFast TV2000, and 2 2gb ram cards (2GB DDR2-800 PC2-6400) also will be needing 5.1 sound either from the motherboard or from Creative SoundBlaster (pci card, so another pci slot).

so thats what im using, so what motherboard will i be needing, i know a Socket AM2 connection but the other parts of it, integrated graphics?? everything else.

Your help will be much appreciated!! :)

Tuneznz
19-01-2008, 10:36 AM
also what size power supply will i need with it

stormdragon
19-01-2008, 10:39 AM
Whats your budget?

I suggest you get a ASUS or Gigabyte motherboard. Theres a lot to chose from depending on the features you want and budget.

Tuneznz
19-01-2008, 10:44 AM
$1200 all up, less the case and motherboard (inc. CHIMEI 19 INCH LCD
AMD Athlon 64 dual core 3GHz
Western Digital 500GB 7200rpm SATA
Inno3D 8600GT 1GB Video Card
2X2GB DDR2-800 PC2-6400
WinFast TV2000
Creative SoundBlaster) its $1000 so $200ish for the case and mother

Nomad
19-01-2008, 10:56 AM
What?
$200 for the case and the motherboard?

In otherwords you want to spend $100 for the case and $100 for the motherboard?

Nomad
19-01-2008, 11:01 AM
Given your gear above .. you may be wanting to spend least $200-250 on the motherboard alone.

I suggest go to ascent.co.nz or pp.co.nz, I think PP has the motherboards grouped into the CPU socket types .. so you can have a look at them .. and maybe look at the ASUS and Gigabyte brands.

I have not done it much .. but for the motherboard, you probably be looking at the FSB speeds, how many PCI slots it has or any other stuff that you may want like firewire etc, SATA channels and the chipset version.

Haven't done for a while but for chipset, you may want to avoid the cheaper SiS and ViA and stuff like that given, you are getting pretty good stuff from your list. However they are fine for the typical family computer who are not into as you are .. my bro has them.. whole unit cost like under $500 (no monitor or keyboard/mouse) but all he use is just net, and email and MS Word. For the AMD I think the good chipset is maybe nForce - I assume they are still good but maybe get one of the newer versions or the 2nd. For Intel CPUs naturally thats Intel chipset ..

Tuneznz
19-01-2008, 11:31 AM
well i now have some more cash for it so i will probably go for the higher standard motherboard. yea, that was on the scrimping side a bit.

Tuneznz
19-01-2008, 11:36 AM
what does it mean the integrated graphics or shared graphics?

Thebananamonkey
19-01-2008, 11:38 AM
$1200 all up...
Inno3D 8600GT 1GB Video Card


Really? 1 Gig? For less than 1200? I don't believe it... If it's true I'll have one thanks!

Thebananamonkey
19-01-2008, 11:44 AM
Actually... I stand corrected. But why is it so cheap? It has to be rubbish... doesn't it?

Tuneznz
19-01-2008, 12:02 PM
yep, thats what i thought, but its a nVidia 8600GT http://www.xpcomputers.co.nz/views.asp?hw_id=2831

stormdragon
19-01-2008, 12:28 PM
I wouldn't trust that GPU either. Suggest your stick to ASUS, Gigabyte or XFX all of whom produce great cards with good warranties.

Tuneznz
19-01-2008, 12:29 PM
http://www.inno3d.com/products/GRAPHIC_card/gf8/8600gt.htm is a similar product

Tuneznz
19-01-2008, 12:57 PM
ok, what are the benifits of the asus and gigabite over the other one?

feersumendjinn
19-01-2008, 03:06 PM
Mainly build quality/reliability/warranty ;)

D. McG
19-01-2008, 03:11 PM
what are the benifits of the asus and gigabite over the other one?
Quality / reputation. It's best to stick with well-known, established brands so you'll know you'd get good support and your hardware would less likely fail. Don't go with some obscure brand that you've never heard about before. In time they'll prove themselves or not.

In the case of motherboards, I myself have an Asus M2N SLI-Deluxe - which has an AM2 socket (for Athlon 64s), SATA (and 1 IDE channel) and PCI-e 16 graphics slots. Okay, my first one was faulty, but the replacement works fine.
Soltek is another good brand, though I haven't seen any AM2 socket versions. It pays to look at the design & layout as well, i.e. PCI slot spacing w.r.t. PCIe-16 graphics slots, power connectors, IDE / FDD / SATA connectors being in reasonably close proximity to where the drives will be installed in the case.

For graphics cards, Leadtek is another good brand with reasonably quiet heatsink/fan design. Asus has a similar design for their cards, e.g. EN8600GT.

Thebananamonkey
19-01-2008, 03:28 PM
Don't mean to hijack the thread... but you reminded me. Are soltek still in business? Because I've been trying to update my BIOS, and their download site is showing a mysql_connect error. Don't want to pay for BIOS, as some sites have asked me to. Looking for a revision where I can change FSB speeds, as the current one is locked, apart from voltage and CPU multipliers.

Tuneznz
19-01-2008, 11:08 PM
Thanks for the help and advice,am i in right direction with a Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P nVidia nForce430 Socket AM2 ATX Motherboard (http://www.pp.co.nz/products.php?pp_id=MB00067) and a Gigabyte GeForce 8600GT 512MB GDDR2 HDTV gpu?

Pete O'Neil
20-01-2008, 01:48 PM
512 and 1gb of memory for 8600GT cards is complete overkill the GPU itself simply isn't fast enough to utilize all the memory. Often with the cheap 512mb and 1gb cards they have slower memory speeds as a compromise thus meaning they often preform slower than 256mb cards. If you were buying a 8800GT then a 512mb card would be a good purchase.

AMD really is a waste of money at the moment and you making a big mistake buying a high end CPU and then skimping on the rest of your component. The same can be said for wasting money on Soundblaster, onboard sound is pretty good these days and even if its not up to your standard you better off investing money on quality components now and upgrading the sound later.

Overall your selection of components isn't that great.

Tuneznz
20-01-2008, 10:58 PM
i have had a large look at many sites and pieces of info and have found the best one for what i need and then just price spyed it and found it much cheaper elsewhere. true i have chosen a motherboard (now) that has the 5.1 and such built in to it so i dont need to splash out on that. the GPU is at the moderate side of the price range and quality (for a mid range gaming and light video editing computer).

Why is AMD crappy atm? i still see them as being above Intel

memphis
20-01-2008, 11:19 PM
I would get either of these from www.pricespy.co.nz

Seeing as you are not buying a sound card you can get a better graphics card which is a better buy for playing the new good games.

Geforce 8800 GT, 512MB, PCI Express
$370.13

GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB, (G92) PCI Express
$482.63

They waste the 8600GT hands down.:thumbs:

Jimmy D
21-01-2008, 09:11 AM
you can probably get a decent motherboard for your current equipment for about $160. i have a similar setup and am using the K8-SLI board from albatron. I didn't usually trust albatron (usually went for ASUS) but it's been good to me so far :)

dugimodo
21-01-2008, 10:55 AM
Nothing wrong with AMD, but intel are winning the performance war at the moment.

I would suggest pricing up a E6750 cpu and ASUS P5K MB and comparing it.

performance is slighlty better, they run cooler, use less power, and don't cost that much. Check some cpu benchmarks you'll see why AMD are struggling right now

Bera
21-01-2008, 01:47 PM
Try using Asus P5B Deluxe/Wifi-AP this is one of my favourite M/B from Asus.

Includes WIfi !! xD

One more tip:

If your building computer to play games rather than watching, surfing web.Spend more money on the Graphic Card rather than the CPU.

e.g. 2.4 GHZ 1 GB RAM -7600GT -Better
3.0 GHZ 1 GB RAM- 6600GT -Lags.

Tuneznz
21-01-2008, 07:58 PM
Yea i am on a budget so am going for a sub $200 card, im mostly going to play WoW on it so its not a huge resource sucker and im happy with what iv selected. the M/B does only have 1 SATA connection so thats why i have the 500gb hd, no need for wireless for me will have a cable/wireless adsl modem so thats sweet.

my final order of items is.
AOC 19" Wide Screen 1912VWa $256.00
AMD Athlon 64 dual core 3GHz Retail $209.15
Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P nVidia nForce430 Socket AM2 ATX $102.30
WM007 VESA Angeled Wall Mount $100.00
Western Digital 500GB 7200rpm SATA $139.54
Gigabyte GeForce 8600GT 512MB GDDR2 HDTV $149.00
2X2GB DDR2-800 PC2-6400 $99.36
Sirius Gaming Case (Silver), Side Window, 500W ATX 2.0 PSU $171.71
Total Less GST
$1,227.06
Inc. GST $1,382.61


Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated

stormdragon
21-01-2008, 08:38 PM
Don't know where you got the idea of one SATA port from that Motherboard (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2567) has 4 ports.

Speedy Gonzales
21-01-2008, 08:45 PM
Hmm you sure you WANT the WD hdd??

It maybe cheap but is it reliable?

Misty
21-01-2008, 09:17 PM
Only today had my motherboard replaced by a ASUS K8V-VM. It cost $149.
Integrated graphics.
Misty :stare:

Netsukeninja
21-01-2008, 10:45 PM
I purchased a Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P, and used it in my recent build it seems to be running fine, no onboard video.