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Vicx
16-11-2007, 09:25 PM
I just started getting the problem this week, last week it was still burning DVDs fine. I've tried so many times but Nero keeps telling me all my DVD-Rs are empty DVD-ROMs.

All I've ever used on this pc is Nero, Alcohol and DVD Decryptor.

I've tried updating the firmware, didn't work. Tried removing the device from device manager, didn't work. Tried removing device, then updating firmware, didn't work. Tried plugging it into 'Primary IDE' in my Asus A8N-E motherboard, didn't even recognise it. Plugged it back into 'Sec IDE', but still doesn't work. I've run out of ideas. The drive still reads discs fine, and I've tried burning with 2 different media, but just keeps thinking its an empty DVD-ROM! Been working fine for a year.

It's a Samsung SH-W08a on winxp pro sp2, asus a8n-e.

Speedy Gonzales
16-11-2007, 10:04 PM
Is this burner on DMA??

Is it on the same IDE connection as anything else and jumpered properly?

And whats it jumpered to? MA SL or CS??

Vicx
16-11-2007, 10:25 PM
don't know what DMA is, or any of those other things. But it's on it's own cable, not connected to anything else. Been fine for a year. The only thing I've changed is the CPU, could that have anything to do with it?

bob_doe_nz
16-11-2007, 10:28 PM
Have you tried the disks on other computers?

Are the disks 'finalised' by Nero?

Vicx
16-11-2007, 10:31 PM
don't have any other comps to try it on. Discs are all blank DVDs, I never use multisession anyway.

I checked under IDE ATAPI controllers and it says the drive's transfer mode is Ultra DMA 2.

Vicx
18-11-2007, 09:17 AM
any help? still can't get it working

Speedy Gonzales
18-11-2007, 09:51 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Alcohol is causing the prob.

It can cause a lot of probs. And conflicts.

Vicx
18-11-2007, 10:21 AM
been using these programs for a year, I don't think it's alcohol

Chilling_Silence
18-11-2007, 10:24 AM
First things first, grab a stock standard DVD from the video store or the latest PCWorld Mag and make sure it reads that.

This way you know that its still able to read discs.
Once you've made sure it can read discs, see if it can write to discs (Burn them at 1x or 4x, depending on your writer -- Makes the burn more reliable), and then read them.
If it doesnt read them, try them in another device.

You may also need to swap the media that you use

Can you post the drive make / model?

Chilling_Silence
18-11-2007, 10:29 AM
Sorry, I see that you posted that it was a Samsung.. try some Imation, Princo or Verbatim discs, but try burning it as slow as you possibly can K :)

Speedy Gonzales
18-11-2007, 10:30 AM
You may have been using it for a year. Has it ever been updated tho??

If there have been any updates?

Vicx
18-11-2007, 02:45 PM
I usually burn at 2x or 4x, CDs at 4x. It can read all discs fine, CD or DVD, it just doesn't recognise empty DVD-Rs, it thinks they're empty DVD-ROMs so theres no point changing the write speed if it wont even begin. I've tried 2 different media, neither work. Even Alcohol thinks it's a DVD-ROM.

Yes I've updated it, all the details are in the first post.

Speedy Gonzales
18-11-2007, 02:54 PM
Cant think of anything else. Replace it. Theyre cheap now.

Chilling_Silence
19-11-2007, 07:36 PM
Try a firmware update, may assist. Either that or I'd put it down to a failing laser :(

Vicx
19-11-2007, 07:43 PM
I tried that a few times. It reads discs fine, the laser should be fine..

Chilling_Silence
19-11-2007, 07:46 PM
I had the same issues you described when my Optowrite burner died.. first it couldnt write to DVDs.. then it couldnt write to CDs... and yeah...

Vicx
19-11-2007, 09:05 PM
it was that bastard alcohol. As soon as I uninstalled it, my DVD-ROMs turned to DVD-Rs, without even restarting! I don't know what caused this, because I've been using both programs fine for a year. Anyway at least I've learned something from this. I don't know if I can live without alcohol though.

Speedy Gonzales
19-11-2007, 09:13 PM
There you go, I was right.

Vicx
19-11-2007, 09:53 PM
yea I didn't think it could be alcohol after all that time..

Chilling_Silence
19-11-2007, 11:21 PM
You have Auto-Update enabled by any chance in Alcohol? I think its turned on by default...

Vicx
20-11-2007, 12:16 AM
it always asks but I just say no

Chilling_Silence
20-11-2007, 12:35 AM
I'd be curious to know whats changed then, Hmm...

You re-installed Alcohol and tried it again?