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aidanmaz
06-06-2007, 10:37 PM
i hav dedicated a ISA server because i got sick of computers in my household getting viruses and worms and whatnot, All has been fine excpet for one nagging issue.....i cannot get MS Office outlook (2003 or 2007) to contact a web based email account i use. (gmail) i know gmail uses ssl incoming and outgoing on ports 995 and 465 respectively. i get a "cannot find server, even tho i have configured it correctly and downloaded the gmail pop troubleshooter, which reports no issues. I have googled it and nothing. I realise ISA server is so over the top for a home environment.....any help would be greatly appreciated.

winmacguy
06-06-2007, 10:42 PM
Is that easier than using a Linux server?

The_End_Of_Reality
06-06-2007, 10:50 PM
Well I have to ask... if you get so many worms and Viruses WHAT DO YOU DO ON THE NET!!!??? :groan: I have NEVER had a virus or worm on any of the PCs here in the years that I have been connected to the net :thumbs:

winmacguy
06-06-2007, 10:52 PM
Well I have to ask... if you get so many worms and Viruses WHAT DO YOU DO ON THE NET!!!??? :groan: :

You probably shouldn't ask...:p

aidanmaz
06-06-2007, 11:09 PM
haha what do i do on the net.......other than reading tech stuff, usin MSN and AIM, and teenspot.com (a java based teen chatting room *yes im a teen*) Nothing illegal, i have no idea how i get viruses and worms.......im not a fan of porn (as everyone breathes a sigh of relief) ugh! i have used so many different AVs, paid and free, makes no diff. ISA saved me :-p....i wouldnt know if its easier than a Linux server, used is a pain to get configured, as it blocks so much when installed (took an effort to get DHCP and DNS working again)

What i am askin wasnt covered in my MCSA course, which had ISA part.

The_End_Of_Reality
06-06-2007, 11:49 PM
Well you (or someone else in the family) must do something to get so many viruses and worms...

winmacguy
06-06-2007, 11:56 PM
Agreed.

chiefnz
07-06-2007, 09:41 AM
...*yes im a teen*) Nothing illegal...

OK so if you're a teen and do nothing illegal how did you get you hands on MS ISA Server 2004.... rich parents?

I'd have to agree with The_End_Of_Reality's 1st post... there is something seriously suspect. I have been on the net for years and haven't fallen pray to a virus or worm off the Internet... I've been fortunate enough to have AV software pick up any infections before things turn nasty but these have been mainly from infected CD's or other disk media.

Most AV nowadays (whether paid for or free) will pick up most virus elements, worms and Trojans.... if any of these got through then it would be because someone is allowing them through or they are all miraculously new virus elements, worms and Trojans!!!:eek: :eek:

I guess it sounds like I'm insinuating or hinting at pirate software etc which I probably am but from your post things just don't add up. You changed to a server setup to stop a virus problem? Not the most economical or smart way of doing things... not to mention that this is from someone who claims do have done MCSA....just doesn't add up?

Just me :2cents: worth

wratterus
07-06-2007, 12:49 PM
*Awkward Silence*:xmouth:

aidanmaz
07-06-2007, 03:08 PM
OK so if you're a teen and do nothing illegal how did you get you hands on MS ISA Server 2004.... rich parents?

I'd have to agree with The_End_Of_Reality's 1st post... there is something seriously suspect. I have been on the net for years and haven't fallen pray to a virus or worm off the Internet... I've been fortunate enough to have AV software pick up any infections before things turn nasty but these have been mainly from infected CD's or other disk media.

Most AV nowadays (whether paid for or free) will pick up most virus elements, worms and Trojans.... if any of these got through then it would be because someone is allowing them through or they are all miraculously new virus elements, worms and Trojans!!!:eek: :eek:

I guess it sounds like I'm insinuating or hinting at pirate software etc which I probably am but from your post things just don't add up. You changed to a server setup to stop a virus problem? Not the most economical or smart way of doing things... not to mention that this is from someone who claims do have done MCSA....just doesn't add up?

Just me :2cents: worth

mmmmmm nope not illegal software. if it was pirated.....i dont think i would be posting here. I DID do my MCSA at Ames Training and Resource Centre in Auckland, and also did CompTIA A+ hardware/OS and Network +. *Shrugs* maybe i shud do M$ updates......they seem to slow my logons down tho.

wratterus
07-06-2007, 03:15 PM
That's fair enough, but if it's not pirated, then where did you get it from? Surely not a freebie with one of your courses.... It's worth a good...um $3000+? with the licence and all that...that's a lot of money for a virus problem.

mejobloggs
07-06-2007, 04:01 PM
You don't do MS updates? Weird.

the_bogan
07-06-2007, 04:14 PM
On a side note, most viruses etc. I used to get came through peer to peer. It's scary how many things you automatically allow using those programmes.

Also, clicking on a bad link can screw over your AV.

All this through personal experience. You don't need to be viewing porn etc. Just click on a wrong link in a users id in a forum.

chiefnz
07-06-2007, 07:01 PM
OK so if you're a teen and do nothing illegal how did you get you hands on MS ISA Server 2004.... rich parents?

I mentioned the MCSA thing because no Adminitrator, network engineer, tech support etc etc... would spend $3000+ dollars to solve a VIRUS problem.

OVERKILL is too light a term for what you've done really. You would probably have saved yourself some money (seen as you claim the software isn't pirated) and will have most likely gained invaluable experience by resolving the issue using a process of elimination, which by enlarge is the way any self respecting tech would have done the job. I know I would of.

Incidentally, I'm doing my MCSE and one of the first things I learnt from the course was that it is better to try and isolate the cause of a problem and fix it rather than fit a large band-aid over the entire system hoping the problem won't rear it's ugly head.

BTW.. if you're not doing MS updates... you either have no idea what you're doing or you're software is illegal.... once again things just aren't adding up with your postings.

cheers

Graham L
07-06-2007, 08:25 PM
This is a 2004 version of software, so it might not be covered in an MCSA course. MS want to sell their newest rubbish, oops "software". :D So I can think of "legitimate" ways to get software for "not very much" from someone whose company has no further use for it.

The accusations of criminality are wonderful. Look up the technical term "projection" sometime, people. ;)

I'd agree that it's overkill for a home system. Probably a Linux server would be easier to install and maintain, with the huge advantage of a much larger user base. A good standard distribution (not the latest and "best" one-man effort) will give a good reliable server.

The_End_Of_Reality
07-06-2007, 08:40 PM
I mentioned the MCSA thing because no Adminitrator, network engineer, tech support etc etc... would spend $3000+ dollars to solve a VIRUS problem.

OVERKILL is too light a term for what you've done really. You would probably have saved yourself some money (seen as you claim the software isn't pirated) and will have most likely gained invaluable experience by resolving the issue using a process of elimination, which by enlarge is the way any self respecting tech would have done the job. I know I would of.

Incidentally, I'm doing my MCSE and one of the first things I learnt from the course was that it is better to try and isolate the cause of a problem and fix it rather than fit a large band-aid over the entire system hoping the problem won't rear it's ugly head.

BTW.. if you're not doing MS updates... you either have no idea what you're doing or you're software is illegal.... once again things just aren't adding up with your postings. Yeah... prevention is ALWAYS better than a cure... (changing internet habbits being the prevention and the ISA sever as the cure) not to mention the cost of a LEGIT OS licence...

I would say OVERKILL to the power of 254.6357 :nerd: but I think it counld even be higher :eek:

Yes, again prevention is better than cure... find the person who is causeing the worms and viruses and MAKE them change their internet habbits...

I have to say... what does add up? :rolleyes:

chiefnz
08-06-2007, 10:54 AM
Dare I say the OP doesn't seem to need or want the help he has asked for.... 3 posts for a topic he started and no feedback as to what he has been doing? Sounds like nothing but a proverbial "Tyre kicker"... interested on the outside but no resolve to getting things done on the inside....


The accusations of criminality are wonderful. Look up the technical term "projection" sometime, people.

The OP has done nothing to refute the fact apart from...

mmmmmm nope not illegal software. if it was pirated.....i dont think i would be posting here.
which will be taken with a grain of salt by anyone who has some idea about what is going on out there.

Another time waster walking around with a industry qualification but has no idea how to use it.

Cheers

bardin
07-12-2008, 05:08 AM
Funny that AMES is mentioned in the same breath as software piracy. I attended a course there in 2005 and ended up taking them to court because a) their course was horrendous and b) they tried to compensate for it by providing loads of pirated software...