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west
16-04-2007, 08:17 PM
I'm looking at getting a pc shortly. I'm just wondering if I got a DirectX 9 card does that mean I would be totally unable to play any DirectX 10 games (when they actually come out)?

pctek
16-04-2007, 08:46 PM
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oops. double post...

pctek
16-04-2007, 08:47 PM
Yes.

You need:
A)Vista
B)DX10 card - thats any of the Nvidia 8xxx series or ATIs soon to be released HD29xxseries.

HD2900XT, yum, yum. :D Beats the pants off the current Nvidias....


However there are no DX10 only games yet.
Even Crysis will have support for DX9.0c

qazwsxokmijn
16-04-2007, 10:17 PM
HD? There won't be Radeons anymore?

Faded_Mantis
16-04-2007, 10:29 PM
You say we will need Vista to play DX10 games?

How long do you think DX10 games will continue to have DX9 support? I ask because a fair few people are indicating they may stay on XP for a while yet, and infact XP is still being sold by Microsoft until the start of 2008 (or so I read)

memphis
16-04-2007, 10:31 PM
I would say at this early stage in the game the game developers would be shooting themselves in the foot by only releasing a DX 10 only game when not much of the pc gaming market has bought a DX 10 card yet.

It would be best to wait and see what ATI brings out and to drive down the price of the Nvidia DX 10 cards.:cool:

Personally I will wait for there to be plenty of DX 10 games that I want to buy before I splash out heaps of money on a new DX 10 card and Vista Ultimate, and with service pack 2(I want to have 2 computers 1 with Vista for DX 10 gaming and the other 1, I have now with XP PRO on).:cool:

Pete O'Neil
16-04-2007, 10:45 PM
Many DX10 gmaes will have support for DX9.0 code meaning that the game will successfully run on DX9.0 hardware. The only difference will be visual and in some cases performance. DX10 many in some cases be more efficient at rendering a scene compared to the DX9.0 equivalent.

Just remember back to the release of DX9.0, DX8.1 cards didn't become obsolete overnight. I many cases it was the cards overall speed that made them redundant and not which version of DX that was supported.

memphis
16-04-2007, 10:50 PM
Quote:Faded_Mantis
How long do you think DX10 games will continue to have DX9 support?

I personally reckon a good couple of years or maybe more,unless M$ puts the squeezer on game developer's.:D

pctek
16-04-2007, 10:53 PM
You say we will need Vista to play DX10 games?

How long do you think DX10 games will continue to have DX9 support?

Well don't panic. I have no intentions of moving to Vista. Hopefully it will all be a bad dream and we'll be forced to move to Vienna by then anyway.:D

I've only had XP since Jan 2005. I resisted quite a long time. It was my MB drivers that made me install it.

More importantly:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6903

and

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4898

So I wonder how I'll go on Crysis with that and XP, haha......

memphis
16-04-2007, 11:11 PM
Quote:Pete O'Neil
Just remember back to the release of DX9.0, DX8.1 cards didn't become obsolete overnight. I many cases it was the cards overall speed that made them redundant and not which version of DX that was supported.

Yes I agree,I would not for an example buy a card for gaming that only has 128mb of ram on now,its 512mb or more for me now.:D

Plus like you said the clock speeds are way better now as well.

Big John
17-04-2007, 01:34 AM
I would say at this early stage in the game the game developers would be shooting themselves in the foot by only releasing a DX 10 only game when not much of the pc gaming market has bought a DX 10 card yet.

Personally I will wait for there to be plenty of DX 10 games that I want to buy before I splash out heaps of money on a new DX 10 card and Vista Ultimate, and with service pack 2(I want to have 2 computers 1 with Vista for DX 10 gaming and the other 1, I have now with XP PRO on).:cool:

Bit of a contridiction there. If people are not buying DX10 games until there are heaps of them then the makers surely are not going to produce them. Catch 22.

Me I will buy any DX10 game that meets what I want in a game. It should be very nice.

Currently running STALKER at FULL settings on my Vista/8800GTX with fluid motion. Shame there are so many bugs in it that require work arounds.

pctek
17-04-2007, 08:05 AM
Currently running STALKER at FULL settings on my Vista/8800GTX with fluid motion. Shame there are so many bugs in it that require work arounds.

Stalker didn't look very high end graphics to me.
Its just an RPG with guns.

Trev
17-04-2007, 01:00 PM
Halo 2 is due for release on the PC mid May and well only run on Vista.

Trevor :)

PedalSlammer
17-04-2007, 01:05 PM
But only the DX 10 cards have the top performance at the moment. :) The GPU war is about to get started so I think they'll be cheaper anyway. The 8900 and R600 release date is pretty close.

pctek
17-04-2007, 03:06 PM
Halo 2 is due for release on the PC mid May and well only run on Vista.

Trevor :)

Of course. Its MSs. They'll try and make you.

qazwsxokmijn
17-04-2007, 03:22 PM
Halo 2 will only run on Vista? Now that's a business scheme of MS's that I certainly don't agree on.