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pluto1
05-12-2006, 02:42 PM
:) Hi all.


I recently switched to unlimited download capacity with my I P.
I was into swapping music on a site called Dimeadozen.P2P Sharing.
When I got unlimited broadband, I did so because the week Telecom unleashed
broadband my download speed was affected badly.

My previous speed was god forbid only 10kb to 20 kb if I was lucky.
My new unlimited speed suddenly got me to 20kb to 60 kb on this P2P Dimeadozen site.Then within seconds of Downloading my downloads were going back to 0kb

I fine downloading other types of files,they race in.
My I P says P2P Sharing is not a priority for them.

Im not sure what to do ,because Im basicly out of action on P2P.
Can aynone suggest any ideas.
As far as Im aware all Port are forwarded.
Im using ABC Torrent downloader.


Regards Steve

DangerousDave
05-12-2006, 03:14 PM
telecom traffic shapes anything P2P (especially torrents), legal or otherwise

pluto1
05-12-2006, 03:22 PM
Hi DangerousDave

You mean like controls P2P Sharing in its system.
So could that mean they consider 0kb download ok.
My provider is Orcon who of course use Telecom lines.
Just a cop out at there end maybe.
The guy on the end of the phone at the help desk bragged about how here could P2P Share up to 8 files.
Im only begging for 2 files.
The downloads are legal as far as I know,there is know afficial released music allowed,they ban you otherwise.


Steve

DangerousDave
05-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Telecom/Orcon doesn't care if it's legal or not, they only care that it's consuming their network. Is shaping traffic a bad thing? I'm not totally sure. I mean, bittorrent rapes bandwidth, especially at the expense of things that more people use (HTTP traffic etc). Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping for a bit more info.

But I suspect this thread will quickly turn into a political/economic argument.

But if you're getting 0kbps, it makes me think something else is wrong. Is it all torrents that are like that, or just certain ones (especially from that site). You're also relying on other people to keep uploading. If ports are all open properly, then you should be getting *some* speed for *some* torrents. Try download one of the linux image torrents as their likely to be healthy.

pluto1
05-12-2006, 04:03 PM
Hi DangerousDave


This problem is only happening on P2P Sharing.
I downloaded a legal file from the Internet Archive site based in America,all legal and okd by the artist.
This site has all soughts of stuff the whole file rocketed in.
Even American political speeches god forbid.
Lots of film footage from history as well.
So know problems there.

Steve

qazwsxokmijn
05-12-2006, 04:58 PM
It's traffic shaping. The best way to get the most of this 'Unlimited Download' is to leave your PC downloading 24/7 lol....

gum digger
05-12-2006, 05:21 PM
If you are not on contract with orcon then i suggest you move to actrix, they do not shape torrent traffic.

pluto1
05-12-2006, 05:27 PM
Hi Guys

Well for the last 50 min I have been staying constant at 11kb and 5-8kb on a couple of files.
That is a first.
But will changing IP really make that much difference if Telecom control the network?

Master_Frost
06-12-2006, 08:12 AM
Did you happen to notice these threads on the front page?

http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?t=74093



Also this one has a lot of P2P related discussion

http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?t=73589

trinsic
06-12-2006, 10:24 AM
P2P, Sensitive data and when Telecom is busy they will force traffic shaping.

This is only for the unlimited plan.

pluto1
06-12-2006, 02:24 PM
Hi Guys

Thanks for your recent comments on my P2P Sharing post.
Today I have had a connection for about 4 hours and counting it just past 2pm now.Im getting 10-16 kb all the time at this stage.
At one point my heart raced as I had 80kb download off 2 torrents.
Master Frost thanks for directing me to the other P2P posting on this site.
Its nice to know Im not alone.

In the year 2006 this issue is crap.
Its not 1806.
But then again it is Telecom.
I guess sometimes this is the price you pay for living 12000km out of the rest of the world.
Do we have good Broadband services Vs the rest of the world?

Steve

Breezzee
06-12-2006, 04:20 PM
If you are not on contract with orcon then i suggest you move to actrix, they do not shape torrent traffic.

Agreed. Since I've moved to them 2 month's ago (by suggestion on these forums) my bit torrents have been downloading like the old days with Ihug.

But don't tell too many people........we don't want their network overloaded. :D

pluto1
06-12-2006, 09:38 PM
Oh well the buggers are back to there old tricks.
Very slow tonight from about 3pm onwards.
Insane ,completely insane.
Think I will down grade my IP plan.
For me if I cannot torrent,I will not pay them the rates they are after.
Small protest I know.
But it seems pointless to pay for more gig,when I cannot use it for what I want.
More speed as well for that matter..
Im sure in time these twats will sought it out,maybe in about another 20 years or so.

Steve

trinsic
07-12-2006, 03:13 PM
Do we have good Broadband services Vs the rest of the world?

If you want to know we beat Mexico this year YAHOO :lol:

We are like no. 13 in the world after Telecom pulled that stunt of 3.5mbps crap.