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bk T
06-10-2006, 05:02 PM
This old PC's Motherboard (P4S333-VM) is fried. Looking for a replacement. It is using Intel 1.7 GH/256/488 CPU - this is what printed on the CPU. Socket 478 ?

Preferrably an ASUS MB. I know this is a old mb but recommendations will be appreciated. Budget: <$150.00

Cheers

Speedy Gonzales
06-10-2006, 05:12 PM
Theyre pretty hard to find now.

I was pretty lucky to replace this old crap SIS based mobo I had.

Lucky a shop down the road, had a cheap ASUS mobo for $70.

You can have this P4S8x-x. The only thing is it lags. But works.

Fishy
06-10-2006, 05:43 PM
I don't know much about this stuff, but if it's old and not available to buy retail anymore, have a look on TradeMe. You might just get lucky.

gibler
06-10-2006, 05:51 PM
Pricespy (http://www.pricespy.co.nz/cat_6.html#g10) is your friend?

bk T
06-10-2006, 08:43 PM
Thanks guys.

Not necessarily to be the same model MB, as long as it supports the CPU with onboard sound and video.

Speedy Gonzales
06-10-2006, 08:45 PM
Thanks guys.

Not necessarily to be the same model MB, as long as it supports the CPU with onboard sound and video.

The P4s8x-x is a 478 pin mobo. It has onboard sound but no onboard video.

You have to install a PCI or AGP videocard.

bk T
06-10-2006, 09:01 PM
Thanks, Speedy, but I do prefer a MB with onboard sound and graphic - not prepared to spend tooooo much on an old piece of thingy.

How about this: ASUS P4S800-MX(SiS661FX)? Does it support my CPU?

BTW, how do I know (or find out) whether it supports this CPU or not?

Cheers

Speedy Gonzales
06-10-2006, 09:12 PM
It supports 478 pin (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=477&l1=3&l2=12&l3=42)

I would stay away from SIS mobos. They're crap.

As I said in my previous post, SIS chipset motherboards lag, and you'll notice it.

Only thing with onboard video is if u want it for games, forget it. They havent got enough ram, which is why PCI or AGP is better.

bk T
06-10-2006, 10:03 PM
How do I identify the CPU's socket? The identification number printed on it doesn't tell what socket it is.

How do I identify what socket it is?

Speedy Gonzales
06-10-2006, 10:10 PM
How do I identify the CPU's socket? The identification number printed on it doesn't tell what socket it is.

How do I identify what socket it is?

Cant u read? I said it is a 478 pin mobo.

bk T
06-10-2006, 10:32 PM
Cant u read? I said it is a 478 pin mobo.

I mean, if I'm given a CPU, not new in the box with all the specs, but just an old one , then how do I identify what socket set of MB to use?

Thanks for being so patient with me, Speedy.

gibler
06-10-2006, 10:52 PM
I mean, if I'm given a CPU, not new in the box with all the specs, but just an old one , then how do I identify what socket set of MB to use?

Thanks for being so patient with me, Speedy.

It will be stamped on the top somewhere usually what code and speed it is, you can then look up say Intel's website for the socket type if the markings offer no clue.

drcspy
07-10-2006, 05:28 AM
errr...........this 'lag' on sis mobos.......i've gotta p4s800 in my puter, built about three years ago or so, and I've never noticed any kinda 'lag' .....exactly how would I ascertain this ?.....i'ts a 2.4Ghz P4 and it's pretty quick ......

Speedy Gonzales
07-10-2006, 06:04 AM
Look on the CPU socket on the mobo (on the side, where its got the triangle (which tells u which way to put the CPU in).

It should say something like mPGA 478B or similar. Which means it takes a 478 pin CPU.

This applies to ALL mobos. Whether its 478/754/Socket A/939 etc. The kind of CPU the mobo can take is printed on the CPU socket on the mobo.

You'll notice Dr. Maybe its just the P4S8x-x that lags.

When u boot up, when u run programs, anything really.

There's a delay of like 10 secs or so, before it actually decides to do something.

I noticed it straight away, when this P4S8x-x was running.

A mobo wouldn't have what speed it can go up to.

Thats what the manual is for. That tells u what the speed the mobo goes up to.

drcspy
07-10-2006, 06:12 AM
ou'll notice Dr. Maybe its just the P4S8x-x that lags.

When u boot up, when u run programs, anything really.

There's a delay of like 10 secs or so, before it actually decides to do something.

I noticed it straight away, when this P4S8x-x was running.

hmm..........not on MY system .....for example I just opened up MsWord and it took maybe two seconds to be up on screen fully ready to use....

Speedy Gonzales
07-10-2006, 06:19 AM
Oh well, the P4S8x-x maybe the only mobo thats got this prob then.

There maybe others, but I havent tried any others, besides the P4P800 and P4P8x (The ones I'm using at the mo), which are Intel based.

They dont have the same prob.

Pete O'Neil
07-10-2006, 01:28 PM
Oh well, the P4S8x-x maybe the only mobo thats got this prob then.

There maybe others, but I havent tried any others, besides the P4P800 and P4P8x (The ones I'm using at the mo), which are Intel based.

They dont have the same prob.
Good to see your making assumptions about chipsets even though youve only used one motherboard based on that particular chipset ;)

FrankS
07-10-2006, 03:30 PM
have a look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_478

for more info.