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Fishy
04-10-2006, 03:58 PM
Whenever I try and rip music from a cd (it's not a burnt cd it's the ones you buy from a shop) to itunes the songs go all strange. Like when you play a cd in a cd player and it skips cos of a scratch, its kinda like that, like every 5sec the song will sound like it's skipping, except that's not possible on a ipod cos how can it be scratched?
I used windows media player to get the songs off once and the songs are fine but it's a pain in the buttocks cos ipods only play MP3 and ACC or AAC i don't remember. So cd's rip in WMA format then i have to import them in itunes and convert them to MP3. Which i normally wouldn't care about but my computer is such a piece of !$#@ it takes about 3 and a half mins to rip ONE SONG off the cd and then another 4mins to convert ONE FILE to MP3 :yuck:
I'm a few years older by the time it finishes. So does anyone know how i can stop the songs going all weird

PS
I have tried changing the quality, e.g. 128kbps up to about 320kbps i think

PPS
It's not anything wrong with my ipod cos i downloaded a song to check and it was fine

plod
04-10-2006, 04:52 PM
Whenever I try and rip music from a cd (it's not a burnt cd it's the ones you buy from a shop) to itunes the songs go all strange. Like when you play a cd in a cd player and it skips cos of a scratch, its kinda like that, like every 5sec the song will sound like it's skipping, except that's not possible on a ipod cos how can it be scratched?
I used windows media player to get the songs off once and the songs are fine but it's a pain in the buttocks cos ipods only play MP3 and ACC or AAC i don't remember. So cd's rip in WMA format then i have to import them in itunes and convert them to MP3. Which i normally wouldn't care about but my computer is such a piece of !$#@ it takes about 3 and a half mins to rip ONE SONG off the cd and then another 4mins to convert ONE FILE to MP3 :yuck:
I'm a few years older by the time it finishes. So does anyone know how i can stop the songs going all weird

PS
I have tried changing the quality, e.g. 128kbps up to about 320kbps i think

PPS
It's not anything wrong with my ipod cos i downloaded a song to check and it was fine

when you convert from codec to another you are downgrading file.
i think your best solution would be to start fresh in itunes and dump wma.

Billy T
04-10-2006, 05:05 PM
Why aren't you ripping the CDs straight to MP3 in iTunes?

128kbps is OK, and I have been ripping much faster than you with a PIII 550MHz, W2K and 512MB ram.

Maybe your computer has too much running in the background so try closing down some programs, or run HijackThis to see if you have a load of malware hogging your CPU time.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

Fishy
04-10-2006, 05:11 PM
Why aren't you ripping the CDs straight to MP3 in iTunes?

128kbps is OK, and I have been ripping much faster than you with a PIII 550MHz, W2K and 512MB ram.

Maybe your computer has too much running in the background so try closing down some programs, or run HijackThis to see if you have a load of malware hogging your CPU time.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

I am happy to report i am virus free :D

This is a Intel Celeron P3 1.1GHz but only 128mb of sdram running XP so it's not really running it well but I didn't know anything about computers when we got XP...I thought it would work on anything.

That's what i'm trying to do, rip straight to MP3 in itunes, but thats when the song goes all stuffed up and sounds like cd skipping...Is it an itunes problem? I have tried reinstalling itunes.

Billy T
04-10-2006, 06:22 PM
I am happy to report i am virus free :D
You may be virus free, but you could still have malware and spyware running. Try running HijackThis anyway and post the results, it won't do any harm.

You are a little light on RAM (why not buy some more?), but you still have more computing power than I have so something is using up your CPU cycles.

Have you scanned with Spybot or Adaware?

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

Safari
04-10-2006, 06:31 PM
I am happy to report i am virus free :D
That's what i'm trying to do, rip straight to MP3 in itunes, but thats when the song goes all stuffed up and sounds like cd skipping...Is it an itunes problem? I have tried reinstalling itunes.

That is not what you said initially.
"So cd's rip in WMA format then i have to import them in itunes and convert them to MP3"

Do what Billy T says.
"Why aren't you ripping the CDs straight to MP3 in iTunes"

Safari
04-10-2006, 06:48 PM
I might add that Billy T is a recent enthusiastic convert to itunes and knows what he is talking about.
In fact it would not surprise me after a taste of the Apple if his next computer is a Mac. People who have never used a Mac are often surprised when they get to use Apple products at how well everything just works.

Jeff
04-10-2006, 06:50 PM
A mate of mine has the same problem on his PC with iTunes.
Usually it is the last song on the Cd. Only happened on certain CDs.
We thought it is the DVD/CD drives on his PC as the same CDs recorded fine on my PC with iTunes.Maybe there is a problem between the brand and/or type of drive and iTunes.
Haven't bother to look into it any further at the moment.

Jeff.

roddy_boy
04-10-2006, 07:53 PM
That is not what you said initially.
"So cd's rip in WMA format then i have to import them in itunes and convert them to MP3"


when you convert from codec to another you are downgrading file.
i think your best solution would be to start fresh in itunes and dump wma.


Why aren't you ripping the CDs straight to MP3 in iTunes?


Whenever I try and rip music from a cd (it's not a burnt cd it's the ones you buy from a shop) to itunes the songs go all strange. Like when you play a cd in a cd player and it skips cos of a scratch, its kinda like that, like every 5sec the song will sound like it's skipping, except that's not possible on a ipod cos how can it be scratched?
I used windows media player to get the songs off once and the songs are fine but it's a pain in the buttocks cos ipods only play MP3 and ACC or AAC i don't remember. So cd's rip in WMA format then i have to import them in itunes and convert them to MP3.

Can you all not read? He is trying to rip straight to iTunes. He used WMP once (as a test, I presume)

Fishy, WMP can rip directly to MP3, if that is any help.

Misty
04-10-2006, 09:15 PM
A mate of mine has the same problem on his PC with iTunes.
Usually it is the last song on the Cd.
I find it is usually the first song that I play each session on my iPOd. Not a major just a little skip. Overall I am more than happy. Sorry not much help !
Misty :D

Fishy
04-10-2006, 09:39 PM
Can you all not read? He is trying to rip straight to iTunes. He used WMP once (as a test, I presume)

Fishy, WMP can rip directly to MP3, if that is any help.

Thankyou for reading!
Yes it was as a test to see if ripping in Windows Media Player did the same thing as in itunes. Which it didn't...
To clarify, i'm trying to use itunes to rip cd's to MP3's but the sound stuffs up.
I used Windows Media Player ONCE to check if it was an itunes problem or a computer problem. The songs were fine using Windows Media Player.
It's not just the first song I play on my ipod, or the last song I rip with itunes, it's all the songs off the cd's I rip.
Roddy_boy how do I rip straight to MP3 in Windows Media Player? I can't seem to find out how?

Billy T here is my HJT log:

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macron1
05-10-2006, 03:01 PM
gidday
a mate of mine had a similar problem with itunes sounding bad. He suggested checking the settings in quicktime (installed automatically when itunes installed on pc), specifically the output setting needs to be set at 24bit (it was at 8).

Check this and let us know how you get on (personally i dont belive my friend so would be interested in the outcome). Here is a link to his blog regarding the itunes problem http://row1.info/content/view/78/

georgeks
05-10-2006, 04:08 PM
iTunes use a generic driver from a company called GEAR. You can search your system to find that driver/entry. If you have a driver related issue, Google "GEAR" and you can download the latest verion of their driver. I don't much use iTunes, but this solved some issues-don't know what they were-for a friend

Fishy
05-10-2006, 04:23 PM
macron1 mine was already set to 24 but thanks for the suggestion.

And georgeks I updated the drivers of the "GEAR" thing but still no luck.

I only just thought of this but could it be because I have a crappy CD-ROM drive that only reads cd's and can only do it at a max of 8x?
Would that cause the sound problem?

Billy T
05-10-2006, 04:56 PM
Can you all not read? He is trying to rip straight to iTunes. He used WMP once (as a test, I presume)

We can read OK RB:


I used windows media player to get the songs off once and the songs are fine but it's a pain in the buttocks cos ipods only play MP3 and ACC or AAC i don't remember. So cd's rip in WMA format then i have to import them in itunes and convert them to MP3. Which i normally wouldn't care about but my computer is such a piece of !$#@ it takes about 3 and a half mins to rip ONE SONG off the cd and then another 4mins to convert ONE FILE to MP3

We also know a plural when we see it, and there were so many plurals in this post that it was reasonable to assume that he was ripping to WMA then converting, I mean, who would bother to complain about the time one test CD took to convert?

If iTunes does the job well on a PIII 550, something is screwed in his setup, his software or his hardware. Personally, I am now singularly disinterested in which or what so you can sort it for him if you like.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :xmouth:

plod
05-10-2006, 06:04 PM
We can read OK RB:



We also know a plural when we see it, and there were so many plurals in this post that it was reasonable to assume that he was ripping to WMA then converting, I mean, who would bother to complain about the time one test CD took to convert?

If iTunes does the job well on a PIII 550, something is screwed in his setup, his software or his hardware. Personally, I am now singularly disinterested in which or what so you can sort it for him if you like.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :xmouth:
So Billy are you happy with the results you have been getting with itunes?

Billy T
05-10-2006, 09:46 PM
So Billy are you happy with the results you have been getting with itunes?
Yes I am thanks Plod. The way I have it set up, all I have to do is line up the stack of CD's (plural) open iTunes, insert the first CD (singular) then get on with my work. When the CD tray opens, I take out the first CD, insert the next then close the tray. Repeat the foregoing as many times as there are CD's.

All CD's are copied flawlessly, even copies, or the dogs that I couldn't copy with Cdex or any of the others I tried, and all tracks are complete as well. Cdex and others were inclined to get sick of it all after a few minutes and cut tracks short. That might have been my ancient computer though, a PIII550 is not exactly bleeding edge anymore.

Such flawless performance rather leads me to forgive iTunes for its larger than normal footprint; when everything else works like a dream, you can overlook trivial things like that.

That's what I keep telling Mrs T anyway, when she starts complaining about my couple of minor flaws that seem to get on her nerves from time to time.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

Lizard
06-10-2006, 07:29 AM
macron1 mine was already set to 24 but thanks for the suggestion.

And georgeks I updated the drivers of the "GEAR" thing but still no luck.

I only just thought of this but could it be because I have a crappy CD-ROM drive that only reads cd's and can only do it at a max of 8x?
Would that cause the sound problem?

If the CD-ROM is not reading discs properly, then it might cause the output files to skip. I encountered this when I used CDex with an older DVD-ROM drive that didn't like scratched discs. A lot of the MP3s skipped or had noise on them. I re-ripped using a brand-new DVD writer, and the problems disappeared.

I use iTunes for all my music now, but one thing I miss about CDex (which iTunes doesn't have) is that it would tell you if there were errors in the ripping of CDs (jitters, I think CDex called it). Using the new DVD writer, even scratched discs rip without errors.