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leonidas5
26-09-2006, 08:18 AM
see
www.xtra.co.nz/unleashed for new plan details released officially today.

Hitech
26-09-2006, 09:54 AM
Much better plans than what they have now. Im currently on the explorer plan which is $50 a month. The go large plan which is unlimited is the same price as the explorer plan, thats better than my current one im on.
Be interesting to see what speed i will get when they increase it, currently i get 3.2mbps so hopefully i should be nearer 7.5mbps next month.

PaulD
26-09-2006, 10:03 AM
Be interesting to see what speed i will get when they increase it, currently i get 3.2mbps so hopefully i should be nearer 7.5mbps next month.

The current "3.5mbps" plans have the modem/routers line rate limited to 4288kbps. If you're not getting all of that then you won't get any more when limiting comes off.

Hitech
26-09-2006, 10:07 AM
But i do get 4288kbps just had a look in the router settings.

SolMiester
26-09-2006, 10:11 AM
I moved to the 3.5 plan from 2mb, however the speed never changed really and mostly is arounf 1.8mb.
I'm hoping full speed accross the exchanges will release better speeds to my line. If it dont, then i guess I'll have to settle for unlimited data!

Billy T
26-09-2006, 10:20 AM
Woo Hoo :D

I get to keep my max upload and download speeds, get an extra GB of download and save $30 per month. Not before time I might add, I have paid a small fortune to have the old full speed Jetstream, though it has been worth it.

Once again, it is interesting to see that Telecom says that "your connection speed will be as fast as your phone line allows." No mention of being slowed down by contention ratios at the exchanges or heavy web traffic etc.

With a statement that bold, and completely unqualified, I can see arguments arising if speeds during heavy traffic periods slow dow. If you get faster speeds in off-peak periods then clearly your line is not an issue, so I'm not sure how they are going to deal with this. It could cause them untold grief unless they have done some major upgrades of exchanges etc in preparation.

Time will tell.:rolleyes:

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

The_End_Of_Reality
26-09-2006, 10:23 AM
I am the same as you SM, my speed has not increase, but then it has not decreased either, the modem reports the 2144kbps... I am going to get a better modem than the stupid D-Link anyway (I know it is not the modems fault) Telecom say I am too far from the exchange and the cable attenuates too much at this distance... so unless they plan on redoing the wiring, I will not see any speed increase :annoyed:

EDIT: Just read the plans and I like the look of unlimited!!! :D but what are these two conditions? Heh reading them they do not encorage P2P but then use the size of music, movies and CDs as data examples... and say people using P2P isn't a problem during off peak times... what is Telecom on? :lol:

SolMiester
26-09-2006, 10:32 AM
What does the exchange look like, I have a chrome topped clyinder at my front gate?
I use a Linksys wireless router, not the brick they gave me. I have to stay with Telecom in order to use they Radius servers for remote admin.
Better than dial-up anyway, had to laugh, at a friends last night looking for manual for Briggs and Stratton motors, unbelievably slow, what a nightmare trying to get info off the web.....LOL

Fishy
26-09-2006, 11:06 AM
YAY!
I'm going on unlimited 'cos I don't use P2P so I shouldn't have a problem.
But, because on the 3.5mbit I only get around 2.3mbit will that mean that when they make it as fast as possible it won't go any faster?

stu161204
26-09-2006, 11:49 AM
What does the exchange look like, I have a chrome topped clyinder at my front gate?L

Its a Big building full of telephone cables, I don’t think it the one at the bottom/top of your street.

stu161204
26-09-2006, 11:56 AM
:( Those plans suck :groan:

I can see we are going to have a problem :waughh:

why cant they have more plans that slowed to dial-up!!!

lance4k
26-09-2006, 12:37 PM
Well i guess the unlimited plan is better than nothing. So i read the fair use policy and it says u can't download more than 700MB between 4pm and midnight.

This means u can download as much as you want(more than 700MB) between 12am-4pm. That's pretty cool.before u go to school just put on some downloads and stop them at 4pm when u get home.

trinsic
26-09-2006, 01:46 PM
lol at 7.5mbps/128k.

You will get around 2mbps(?) and burstable upto 7.5mbps :\

And the 700mb cap is a bit lame but oh well. Wonder what the pool would be like. Sharing bandwidth with other big downloaders :D

Annanz
26-09-2006, 01:52 PM
Well i guess the unlimited plan is better than nothing. So i read the fair use policy and it says u can't download more than 700MB between 4pm and midnight.

This means u can download as much as you want(more than 700MB) between 12am-4pm. That's pretty cool.before u go to school just put on some downloads and stop them at 4pm when u get home.

Think this is great news... And think it is fair that you cannot download anymore than 700MB between 4pm & 12am.. But are you able to provide link to telecom "fair use policy" would be interested in reading it myself.

stu161204
26-09-2006, 02:01 PM
lWonder what the pool would be like. Sharing bandwidth with other big downloaders :D

That’s going to be very interesting :D

Greg
26-09-2006, 02:25 PM
But are you able to provide link to telecom "fair use policy" would be interested in reading it myself.Go to http://xtraplans.co.nz/unleashed/plans_table.html - click on Fair Use Policy Applies* in the table.

Myth
26-09-2006, 02:25 PM
Wonder what the pool would be like. Sharing bandwidth with other big downloaders :D


That’s going to be very interesting :DNo doubt we will hear all about it in this forum :p

Rob
26-09-2006, 02:38 PM
I moved to the 3.5 plan from 2mb, however the speed never changed really and mostly is arounf 1.8mb.
I'm hoping full speed accross the exchanges will release better speeds to my line. If it dont, then i guess I'll have to settle for unlimited data!

Perhaps you are like me and your copper line is connected to a local box with a Conklin and from there to the exchange via fibre optic.

After a lot of toing and froing Telecom finally admitted to me that people like me would NEVER get more than 2mb due to the backhaul limitations of the Conklin itself. When these were introduced about 3 years ago it because they were a chaep solution. It is only when/if/whenever these are ugraded that you will get the speeds now potentially on offer.

Rob

godfather
26-09-2006, 02:58 PM
What does the exchange look like, I have a chrome topped clyinder at my front gate?

Here is a picture of an older exchange in Wellington.

Newer ones tend to be smaller, but most are still in the older larger buildings designed to house electro-mechanical exchange equipment of the day.
http://www.wcl.govt.nz/wellington/khandallah.html

Billy T
26-09-2006, 02:59 PM
What the heck is a Conklin Rob?

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :confused:

Forget it, I found the answer Here (http://www.conklin-intracom.com/fastmuxpr.html)

stu161204
26-09-2006, 03:19 PM
No doubt we will hear all about it in this forum :p

yeath :D

SolMiester
26-09-2006, 05:13 PM
Not sure what a conkllin looks like, will take pix when i get home and post

bonkiebonks
26-09-2006, 05:52 PM
You can use 700MB during the peak hours (4pm - 12am) each day - that still works out to be just over 20GB a month! It's a lot considering Telecom has never released any plans with such massive cap for residential users (i.e. no 2c/MB overage).

I personally feel that this is the best plan I've seen in NZ. I will give it a try once it's available. :thumbs:

stu161204
26-09-2006, 07:15 PM
I personally feel that this is the best plan I've seen in NZ. I will give it a try once it's available. :thumbs:

imo there are the worse plans I have seen in NZ! ( at lest for heavy downloader’s – does using 7+ GB/month count as a heavy downloader?)

heaton
26-09-2006, 07:56 PM
At present I am on the cheapest rate offered. I note that under the new schemes I will be charged extra if I exceed the 200 Mb ration. My question is: What constitutes a download ?
If I access F1 to browse through the postings is this a download ? If my friend sends me some pictures does this constitute a download ? If so then if I want to continue browsing the internet I will have to pay extra to avoid the extra payment on plan 1.

bonkiebonks
26-09-2006, 08:11 PM
imo there are the worse plans I have seen in NZ! ( at lest for heavy downloader’s – does using 7+ GB/month count as a heavy downloader?)

LoL, most certainly not! :)

PaulD
26-09-2006, 08:14 PM
At present I am on the cheapest rate offered. I note that under the new schemes I will be charged extra if I exceed the 200 Mb ration. As you would on the existing one.


My question is: What constitutes a download ?
If I access F1 to browse through the postings is this a download ? If my friend sends me some pictures does this constitute a download ? If so then if I want to continue browsing the internet I will have to pay extra to avoid the extra payment on plan 1.Anything you do on the net constitutes either a download or an upload and both count against the 200MB allowance.

jd74
26-09-2006, 08:29 PM
My experience of going back to the darkside...High I would like to know the max speed my line can handle "what plan are you on" I am with Ihug, I want to know how fast my line is "we can offer you 7.5 megs" upto "why" Did you understand my question? "no".........Seconed call high I was an xtra customer looking to going back, can you tell me what the max speed of my line is "it differs between ISP's so we do not know'" what the...they run over one copper line how can it differ "please let me put you throu..." I hung up, xtra pushing the plans but no bugger has a clue.

Poppa John
26-09-2006, 09:35 PM
We are on the Telecom "GO" Plan. Doesn't do anything for us. PJ

andy
26-09-2006, 09:55 PM
Yes it does - you get faster download speed. You will now get "max". I thought he was the guy who writes the Xtra newsletter. "Max" here depends on traffic volume. We're off a small sub exchange with a very limited pipe. When traffic increases it just stops! Sometimes I can't connect for half an hour or so. Xtra tell me its probably the autodialler on my alarm, but an insider in the Telecom repair game tells me that the local pipe is so small it takes bugger all traffic to overload it, so fast is fine if you're the only one online in your suburb but otherwise its all just Telecon b*sh*t. Fast for five minutes then stop for thirty minutes averages out at real slow.

Strommer
26-09-2006, 09:55 PM
see
www.xtra.co.nz/unleashed for new plan details released officially today.

WHERE exactly are the new plans?
I have tried Firefox and then IE but keep getting the old plans:
http://www.telecom.co.nz/chm/0,8763,203086-202321,00.html

....such as $29.95 for 0.2 Gb at 256k speed.

Hitech
26-09-2006, 10:02 PM
Click on the link xtra.co.nz/unleashed and then when you get their click on the blue or yellow box that says click here.

Fishy
26-09-2006, 10:07 PM
WHERE exactly are the new plans?
I have tried Firefox and then IE but keep getting the old plans:
http://www.telecom.co.nz/chm/0,8763,203086-202321,00.html

....such as $29.95 for 0.2 Gb at 256k speed.

Go here! (http://xtraplans.co.nz/unleashed/plans_table.html)

stu161204
26-09-2006, 10:16 PM
WHERE exactly are the new plans?

http://xtraplans.co.nz/unleashed/plans_table.html

Strommer
26-09-2006, 10:28 PM
Click on the link xtra.co.nz/unleashed and then when you get their click on the blue or yellow box that says click here.

That is exactly what I did. :rolleyes: ... but nothing new, just the old plans.

Fishy's URL (below) is correct - thanks.
http://xtraplans.co.nz/unleashed/plans_table.html

jesse_jax
26-09-2006, 10:34 PM
again, completly stupid, i download and upload about 20-30gb's a month, that unlimited one SOUNDS nice but i need faster upload speed, which means cost doubles, i cant stand this **** of having to wait 3 days for an upload to finish.

7mbit/128k

that isnt right! at least make all teh upload speeds 512k, ****ing retards at xtra, hope they die.

Hitech
26-09-2006, 10:35 PM
I think you might be confused with the names of them cause i clicked on your link and up comes the new plans.The go plan is renamed go large cause its unlimited data access.the rest still mainly have the same name but some are bigger in GB size and speed difference which has max beside them all thats the new plans we are talking about.

Strommer
26-09-2006, 10:43 PM
Thanks to Stu also.

Anyhow, the bottom line is that the new plans are still cr*p, except for the maximum speed bit, which is supposed to be 7 Mb/s. TelecoN is not stupid... man, are they going to rake in the extra $$$ when people go over their data cap: 2c per mb = $20 per Gb - yikes!

Strommer
26-09-2006, 10:46 PM
7mbit/128k ... that isnt right! at least make all teh upload speeds 512k, ****ing retards at xtra, hope they die.

:lol: Thanks for the LAUGH Jesse! :lol: :thumbs:

Hitech
26-09-2006, 10:48 PM
I disagree with that comment, because im picking that maybe most people will go for the go large unlimited plan depending on their reason.At least that way you dont have to pay anymore than $50 for it.

jesse_jax
26-09-2006, 10:52 PM
unlimited? NO, its not unlimited, teh most busiest time of the day you are LIMITED more than usual...to only 700mb...

first off, say im a business man, i come home at...5:30, get on my comp, watch some hardcore porn after a long day at the office, and im watching this hardcore porn ALL night, i WILL run out of bandwidth, before 12 o clock.

also, if another isp doesnt have a 10$ for 10gbs deal, im just gonna go strait out and smash my computer to pieces.

Hitech
26-09-2006, 10:58 PM
Go back and read the telecom terms and conditions the 700mbs only applies to those who are downloading p2p all day and gaming.They also said that those who are doing that sort of activity represents 1% of users.The rest of us who are surfing or emails will not be affected.

Ninjabear
26-09-2006, 11:01 PM
Lol

I wish Pro Ultra was around $80 but $150?Lol..Well their new plan seems like the same as the current orcon plan just that the speed is different

jesse_jax
26-09-2006, 11:02 PM
i dont use p2p, but when they say P2P THEY MEAN UPLOADING!! but not just limited to uploading*

you cant simply TELL if someones using p2p to download or there using filefront!

it will be 700mb, not 700mb of p2p, or 700mb of hardcore porn, it will just be 700MB!!

Hitech
26-09-2006, 11:08 PM
You can use the usage meter to see how much you have used and it will also tell you what time you were on and how long you were on for telecom can obviously see that from their end as it will show on your bill and on the online usage meter.Go their and have a look for yourself.

jesse_jax
26-09-2006, 11:19 PM
what are you talking about?

im not disputing whether or not xtra/other isps can see how much data i use you nimkempoop, im disputing that THEY DONT ****ING KNOW HOW IM USING MY INTERNET, WHETHER IT BE TO DL HARDCORE PORN, DOWNLOAD OFF FILEFRONT, OR P2P!

they dont know at all, 700mb is 700mb to them, so its not unlimited, there fore its false advertising, therefore, i should go complain to the commerce commision

Ninjabear
26-09-2006, 11:20 PM
I use this program call DU meter

Its quite good.It logs on and shows you how much data you have used daily,monthly or weekly just by clicking thru the tabs

My daily average is between 1-3GB and my monthly usage is between 32-40GB

What are your average on data guys?

jesse_jax
26-09-2006, 11:24 PM
20-30, although i have been known to go higher.

jermsie
26-09-2006, 11:42 PM
Ooof! What do you people do all day? Thats rather uhm, a lot of usage. I average about 10GB a month. Gosh.. i could do better but not willing to pay for that priveledge.

gum digger
26-09-2006, 11:44 PM
well like always. xtra has problems advertising. i bet these plans are traffic shaped, and we all know how troublesome this can be, even normal http surfing can be slow sometime.

jesse_jax
26-09-2006, 11:58 PM
Ooof! What do you people do all day? Thats rather uhm, a lot of usage. I average about 10GB a month. Gosh.. i could do better but not willing to pay for that priveledge.

hmmm, what do i do all day?


well, download videos

go on you tube

play games

go on forums

play some more games

download some more videos

you tube some more

play games some more.


you get the idea? its very easy to use up 20gb's...

stu161204
27-09-2006, 12:35 AM
What are your average on data guys?

Last month* we used 7 GB (before dad download the RC version of Vista)

* Last month for us is the 14th (end) to 15th (start)

mikebartnz
27-09-2006, 02:02 AM
Once again, it is interesting to see that Telecom says that "your connection speed will be as fast as your phone line allows." No mention of being slowed down by contention ratios at the exchanges or heavy web traffic etc.
Which has gone from 50:1 to 140:1 I believe which means that if everyone jumps on the net at the same time you will end up with a speed slower than dialup.

Fishy
27-09-2006, 08:20 AM
hmmm, what do i do all day?


well, download videos

go on you tube

play games

go on forums

play some more games

download some more videos

you tube some more

play games some more.


you get the idea? its very easy to use up 20gb's...

Thats alot of time spent on the computer...

SolMiester
27-09-2006, 11:07 AM
i dont use p2p, but when they say P2P THEY MEAN UPLOADING!! but not just limited to uploading*

you cant simply TELL if someones using p2p to download or there using filefront!

it will be 700mb, not 700mb of p2p, or 700mb of hardcore porn, it will just be 700MB!!

Yes you can, they watch UDP port traffic

Oh, you have too much free time Jax! Dont you have a job?

Nomad
27-09-2006, 12:15 PM
The average person is not going to leave the computer online overnight and download with maybe a scheduled download manager with queues of items.

That 1% or what it is, is just that. It may benefit those big downloaders should they wish to do that. But the rest of the user's are not going to do that so they are not going to benefit from that. With the fair use policy, the majority of all user's would be restricted by that policy.

IMO its just another fine print decoy. While up front they say its unlimited usage.

People who has their computer in their own bedrooms probably find it a nuisance to sleep so they don't bother to leave it on. Really, what average person leaves the computer on 24hr a day.

Nomad
27-09-2006, 12:22 PM
Well for video I can believe. That is not CSI stuff or blockbusters :D

If a person wants to watch newer foreign tv or dramas they can download the episodes than say purchasing foreign sky channels and they are also much newer and you can miggle on those forums as well. Its also perfectly legal to do this as well. Unlike NZ, many of those places they have like DVDs of episodes for sale so instead of spending 1 month or 3 month for a series, you could knock it back in a weekend or two while staying at home.

Foreign tv is a difference to western or american show's but that is another topic.

Anyone know how much data Skype take that is audio based or video conferencing based?

KiwiTT_NZ
27-09-2006, 01:58 PM
Remember you will even use data, when you are connected and not doing anything. Virus attacks and you own PC(s) being infected, will use up data.

I always switch off my modem, when I am not using my PC. Every byte counts, so they say.

Fishy
27-09-2006, 02:13 PM
I always switch off my modem, when I am not using my PC. Every byte counts, so they say.

That's a wee bit extreme don't you think?

KiwiTT_NZ
27-09-2006, 02:24 PM
Not really. While there is a minute cost for these attacks, why be exposed, when you don't need to be.

The more time the hackers, crackers, script kiddies, bot nets, viruses, etc., get to try against your machine, the more time they have to compromise it.

stu161204
27-09-2006, 03:12 PM
Not really. While there is a minute cost for these attacks, why be exposed, when you don't need to be.

If you have a got good firewall etc... you don’t need to worry about that :), we leave our modem on all the time, but the good thing with ours is after the last computer turns off, it disconnects its self from the internet.

Ninjabear
27-09-2006, 03:13 PM
My compters on 24 hours

I leave my Bt to download some Hk dramas or japanese dramas all night.Wake up in the morning to check my email.Read forums such as pcworld and mobile forums.Check out my listing up at zillion and Trademe.
You get the odd people posting up funny stuff on You tube.

Off to Uni.Come back do some study.Do some research online.Watch some dramas.

....

I don't believe I use alot of data but oh man my average per month is 30-40GB

Hmm...I actually didn't think that my daily usage end up so high.

If ihug didn't calculate upload data as well then I think i would be under 30GB

Nomad
27-09-2006, 03:30 PM
Well yeah it is a hassle to download them. We have Sky and the good thing is that you just turn on and its there, its like they have subscribed a channel at a delayed time (~ 3 months old I think) and the news are up todate the entertainment/celebrity news are also up todate. The good thing is you can watch movies, dramas, documentaries, up todate news, and what other shows there is, shopping trends, fashion, gardening .. much easier than to use BB. I don't think how you could download so much variety on BB even if you wanted to. I guess you do get the more recent dramas and between you and the others you get to mingle and around and stuff but its impossible to download all the other stuff as well.

But back to the original poster's question/post. The average New Zealander is not going to take advantage of overnight downloads and to do that consistently on a near daily basis. Therefore I think unlimited BB usage is just bull. Yes, we get unlimited BB but what do we have to do to get it.

jesse_jax
27-09-2006, 09:47 PM
Thats alot of time spent on the computer...

yes, it is, i dont do stuff everyday, so those days i stay on the computer, when im doing smoething, i get on my comp about 6pm and stay till 11pm-1am

also, about twice to 3 times a week im downloading while im sleeping, new eps of programs, and programs they only show over seas etc.




Yes you can, they watch UDP port traffic

Oh, you have too much free time Jax! Dont you have a job?

job? pfft, dont count on it, i do 3d modelling on my comp as a hobby/trying to get good for a job. When i get bored, i play some games, watch some vids, then keep doing it, and while im modelling, i download, so ya..

TheRascal
30-09-2006, 12:54 AM
BIG DEAL...can hardly get rated speed now so how will this improve my lot ?
Would have been better to increase the upload speed instead giving much better value. But thats Telecom for you, never given nothing away, never will until someone else parallels their exchanges/distribution to optic !

Erayd
30-09-2006, 01:51 AM
One thing no-one has raised.... how can one get 'as fast as the line will allow' downstream speeds with only 128k upload? From memory, downloading via TCP at about 4.7MBits/sec will completely saturate a 128KBits/sec upload (with packet acknowledgements), and it's not possible to go faster without increasing the upload speed.

I may be wrong on the 4.7MBits number, but I believe it's around that area.

andrew93
30-09-2006, 02:00 AM
I often leave my PC / internet on 24/7 and like some posters, it can be easy to blow 700MB in a night. I've just a written a small VB utility to close down a pre-chosen programme (like file sharing) at a pre-set time (like 4pm) and restart it again (at say midnight) to avoid blowing the 700MB limit from 4pm to midnight. It's free for testing / downloading for PF1 users here : http://www.bizequip.co.nz/shares.htm#7 - I just posted a thread on this in the lounge.
Cheers, Andrew

lavitia
06-10-2006, 03:17 AM
Im so glad i found this forum. :blush: Explained all the frustrations i have been experiencing with IHUG for the past month or so, ie crap speed all round. That's why im still up after 2am now to find out why overnight downloads can be less than 500mb when i woke up in the morning! :waughh: Why pay for a 30GB/month plan when I cant even get close to 20gb!? :groan:

Is there any way around traffic shaping and port blocking? Are there any good ISPs out there at all!? :help:

How willing do you reckon the new ISP would be to pay for the $99 early contract termination penalty to IHUG on my behalf? LoL.

Thanks for 'listening'!! :D

stu161204
06-10-2006, 11:43 AM
Welcome to PressF1 lavitia :)

wawape**s
10-10-2006, 04:53 PM
one quesion,

so as long as i dont go over 700mb during 4pm~12am.

i could bittorrent 50gbs if i wanted to during 12.1am ~ 3.59pm?
would they do some of that ol' traffic shaping during 12.1am ~ 3.59pm? If im using too much?

jesse_jax
10-10-2006, 07:47 PM
why would you bit torrent 50gbs in one night, stop being a nuesance, people like YOU create bad network stability and speeds.

wawape**s
10-10-2006, 09:41 PM
well of course i wouldnt actually download 50gigs a day.

just asking if it is really "unlimited downloads at fast speeds' during the off hours

Mirddes
10-10-2006, 10:01 PM
well of course i wouldnt actually download 50gigs a day.


I would.

i did 20+gig in a day on 2mbit a few times

then again, im on cable

edf825
10-10-2006, 10:20 PM
One thing no-one has raised.... how can one get 'as fast as the line will allow' downstream speeds with only 128k upload? From memory, downloading via TCP at about 4.7MBits/sec will completely saturate a 128KBits/sec upload (with packet acknowledgements), and it's not possible to go faster without increasing the upload speed.

I may be wrong on the 4.7MBits number, but I believe it's around that area.

My computer tells me that sizeof(tcphdr) + sizeof(iphdr) is 40 bytes.
Let's assume we're downloading using the maximum TCP packet size of 65535 bytes.
Also, let's say that each ACK is about, maybe, 192 bytes including header (don't knock my assumption; I don't exactly read RFC793 every night before I go to bed).

128 Kbps tranlates to 16384Bps.

Divided by the (assumed) size of our requests, that's 85.333 ACKs per second.

Multiply that by the maximum TCP packet size, minus the header of 40 bytes:
(65535 - 40) * 85.333 = 5588906.6666...Bps
= 5.33000MBps
= 42.6400Mbps

Of course, I've made some of the worst assumptions known to mankind, so maybe add a margin of error of about a zillion percent.

This post goes out to Corey. Arrogant bugger that one.:D

jason_f90
11-10-2006, 05:35 PM
i wonder how other ISP's offering ADSL (orcon,ihug,slingshot,etc) will fare seeing everyone here is eager to switch to the Go Large plan.

jesse_jax
11-10-2006, 05:56 PM
well, orcon has announced its plans to come very soon on monday, so im looking forward to that.

stu161204
11-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Also Maxnet & ICONZ are offering these new plans.

gum digger
11-10-2006, 08:36 PM
well, orcon has announced its plans to come very soon on monday, so im looking forward to that.

where did u get this info?.
their current plans are not bad but they traffic shape and theyre open about. UNLIKE :mad:IHUG:mad:. I wrote an email to them regarding traffic shape. And they gave an unbelivable reply.

Thanks for your email.

It is not ihug policy to shape traffic, nor do we have access to do so.

We are unable to monitor you connection while it physically active, only Telecom are able to do this.

We need you to call and perform speed test info while on the phone to us at ihug and then we need to check the Upstream and down data rates through your router, then we can ring Telecom and get a tunnel shape check done and also verify if you are on or need to be added to their known congestion list.

Once congestion is verified as we will need to perform the mandatory trouble shooting to verify that the issue lies with congestion before a Telecom Faults call can be made and a technician is sent to investigate the local exchange for issues, if you could ring the ihug helpdesk number on the phone number listed below, we can get this process started, thank-you for using mail support services

paulw
11-10-2006, 08:38 PM
well, orcon has announced its plans to come very soon on monday, so im looking forward to that.

Just wish i could get 3.5Meg instead of 2.2Meg from my orcon current plan plus a cap better than 10Gog..

stu161204
11-10-2006, 08:59 PM
where did u get this info?.

http://www.orcon.net.nz/orcon_blog/orcon_news/all_new_broadband_plans_coming_soon/

spartan_chief_nz
11-10-2006, 10:15 PM
where did u get this info?.
their current plans are not bad but they traffic shape and theyre open about. UNLIKE :mad:IHUG:mad:. I wrote an email to them regarding traffic shape. And they gave an unbelivable reply.


why not do what they ask? it might get it resolved you know, ihug isnt how to get you.

also what is traffic shaping?

anyway, i cant believe max upload speed is 768kbps, what a utter let down dont ya'll think?

stu161204
11-10-2006, 11:10 PM
also what is traffic shaping?

Some one will give you a better answer but in a nutshell it mean an ISP give different ports/services less prioritizes then other, take for example http has higher prioritize then P2P have a read of this: http://www.orcon.net.nz/faqs/residential_broadband_faq/do_you_restrict_bandwidth_or_throttle_peer_to_peer _p2p_traffic/ this may explain a bit more on it.


anyway, i cant believe max upload speed is 768kbps, what a utter let down dont ya'll think?

Umm, I think you got confused between up & down.
Up is only about 600kbps aprox

Hope this helps :)

lavitia
11-10-2006, 11:32 PM
their current plans are not bad but they traffic shape and theyre open about. UNLIKE :mad:IHUG:mad:. I wrote an email to them regarding traffic shape. And they gave an unbelivable reply.

Hi gum digger. i called ihug a few times and it was only the second last time that i got an honest operator who was really helpful. he basically told me yes ihug is shaping your account (unlike the others before him). and i have only used half of my peak hours & quarter of my offpeak allowance with another 10days to go. But i think after that phone call he took me off coz i noticed a jump in my dl speed. Happy :D So try giving them a few calls to annoy them if you have the time :P I call them as soon as im annoyed. Then again that was during term break when i had all the time in the world :P

gum digger
12-10-2006, 09:57 AM
Hi gum digger. i called ihug a few times and it was only the second last time that i got an honest operator who was really helpful. he basically told me yes ihug is shaping your account (unlike the others before him). and i have only used half of my peak hours & quarter of my offpeak allowance with another 10days to go. But i think after that phone call he took me off coz i noticed a jump in my dl speed. Happy :D So try giving them a few calls to annoy them if you have the time :P I call them as soon as im annoyed. Then again that was during term break when i had all the time in the world :P

Will do, it will take me another 2weeks since i have to wait atleast 20 min to get through their customer support. lol

spartan_chief_nz
12-10-2006, 06:45 PM
Some one will give you a better answer but in a nutshell it mean an ISP give different ports/services less prioritizes then other, take for example http has higher prioritize then P2P have a read of this: http://www.orcon.net.nz/faqs/residential_broadband_faq/do_you_restrict_bandwidth_or_throttle_peer_to_peer _p2p_traffic/ this may explain a bit more on it.



Umm, I think you got confused between up & down.
Up is only about 600kbps aprox

Hope this helps :)


so what, ill be paying for (on FS/FS) 7.6mbit/600kbps

i mean, that means upload speed isnt even 1mbit, which i think is an utter let down, i was hopin for like...2mb upload..ohwell :rolleyes:

jermsie
12-10-2006, 08:03 PM
i mean, that means upload speed isnt even 1mbit, which i think is an utter let down, i was hopin for like...2mb upload..ohwell

Aw sorry but it's not technically possible at the moment. Its an improvement from the 128k max a few months ago!