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crizzut
02-07-2006, 07:50 PM
I have a dell dimension 4500, and I wanted to upgrade the graphics card, and bump it up to atleast 1gb RAM. Can anyone give me recommendations of good/high quality graphocs cards that are compatible w/ my PC. It'll be primarily for running games/media. thanks for any help.

Speedy Gonzales
02-07-2006, 08:18 PM
Is the video onboard? If it is, I would see what slots are available, ie: either AGP or PCI.

I would also check to see if the motherboard can go to or above 1 GB, and what kind of ram it takes.

Any videocard should work, if u have any spare AGP / PCI slots.

crizzut
02-07-2006, 10:39 PM
It's an AGP card, would I need to replace the card I have now, or could it run with both cards as long as I have the drivers for both? Ill check on the motherboard since I want to upgrade the RAM to 1G.

Rob99
02-07-2006, 10:46 PM
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4500/

tweak'e
02-07-2006, 10:54 PM
just replace the AGP card.

just be carefull. the pc only comes with a 250w power supply which will be a bit to small if you install a powerfull video card.

crizzut
02-07-2006, 11:33 PM
can anyone make a recommendation of specific AGP cards, 1GB RAM, and (if needed) a larger power supply and. I want a 1GB graphics card but I think that's kind of overkill. Also where is the best place to buy this stuff? the local comp store or are there better deals online? Sorry for such the noob question.

memphis
03-07-2006, 01:29 AM
check out www.pricespy.co.nz

Graphic card the 6800gt 256mb,6800gs 256mb or a 7800gs 256mb those are all agp cards.

Power supply, Enermax Liberty is good,I have the 620w.

The 500w Enermax Liberty is cheaper and will do the job. :)

crizzut
03-07-2006, 07:59 AM
ok thanks, 1 last question. I looked through the page and the best AGP I saw had 256 MB, someone recommended the radeon x850xt platinum. Isn't that a PCI??? Can anyone give me a brand name of the best running AGP card or something? Sorry for the stupid questions again :o .

phar
03-07-2006, 09:20 AM
I bought my Leadtek 6600GT from below, also AGP
Just load below page do a Ctrl+f and type in AGP there are a few in there.


http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?page=1

My 2cents

Rob99
03-07-2006, 11:52 AM
You could put any PSU you liked, recommend Enermax.

The website I linked to above shows your AGP bus protocols at 4x/2x modes at 1.5 V, so a flash card must support 4x

You can also only have up to 1Gb of SD RAM, two 512Mb sticks, suggest you buy from someware you can exchange the brand if that dosent work.

SolMiester
03-07-2006, 03:46 PM
You may have a bit of fun fitting a new PSU into that Dell, they quite often use bespoke hardware.

The fastest AGP card evr is the Gainward Bliss 7800+ GS with 512Mb RAM, however unless your have a native 1600x1200 LCD panel for a monitor, would be a waste of money.

The 6800 series or X800 will be plenty.

memphis
04-07-2006, 04:47 AM
Yeah the Gainward Bliss 7800+ GS with 512Mb RAM,is the best and you cant get it in NZ.

I have a msi 7800gs 256mb/256bit and its all good in my old agp rig,with 2gb of ddr400 ram a AMD64 3500 2.2 ghz 512 cache and a couple of sata 1 harddrives. :D

My new rig is a AMD64 170 opteron dual core 2ghz, 1mb cache each core,2gb ddr400 ram,1900xt 512mb/256bit,couple of sata 2 harddrives. :D

(I dont smoke,gamble,hardly drink alcohol,so the money that other people waste on those things I waste on my computers.) :D

If you have a good 19"/21" crt its all good for your resolutions.Heck the eye candy is good on a lcd as well too.

You will need a good power supply for it too as was talked about before to plug into the 7800gs.

Faded_Mantis
05-07-2006, 03:06 AM
first note: a 1gb graphics card will cost $1500NZ+ so it would be worth more than the computer you're wanting to put it in.

The motherboard you have has a 4x AGP bus, so any of the new 8x AGP cards that you may get wont be running at full speed.

Everyone else seams to have said all the other things. Just don't expect steller preformance with that computer.