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Chris Keall
20-06-2006, 03:40 PM
Take a speed test (http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/) then share your comments on Geoff's blog (http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/), and be in to win a copy of Norton Save & Restore (http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/a4792c3d54d31006cc2571160036ff86/2f01233c33d743cccc25717c0079460a!OpenDocument) (winner to be announced on Geoff's blog Monday June 26).

Master_Frost
20-06-2006, 04:06 PM
lol does Geoff of PCworld not realise, the problem with these speed tests is they are only as accurate as the available bandwidth of the speed test site itself. In other words if there are 2000 people all running the test, the result will not be accurate (low).

I have noticed this on a number of speed test sites and in many ways they are near useless especially for measuring connections much over 10MB.

Real world testing is far more accurate.

I bet if he downloaded a large file from a known fast FTP with multiple sources his true speed would probably be far in access of what his speed test result showed (knowing Telstra Cable).

Its no wonder why I don't buy this magazine lol

Biggles
20-06-2006, 04:23 PM
Did you actually read this, from the Consumer test Geoff linked to?

http://www.consumerspeedtest.org.nz/about.php

"How does this test work?
Firstly, you select your ISP and broadband plan from the drop-down menus. This information does not identify you in any way. Consumers? Institute will use this information to build up a database of what speeds New Zealanders are really getting.

Then you run the actual test. We perform very small upload and download tests prior to the real tests to estimate the speed of your connection. That way we do not attempt to upload and download very large files to slow connections. Based on these results we then use one of several test sizes to accurately measure the bandwidth, by sending and receiving files of varying sizes.

Note depending on how busy the internet is at the time, there can be a fair degree of variance of the results that you get from this speed test even when you run several tests back to back. You may wish to run the speed test a few times and average out the results to get a more accurate reading."

Battleneter
20-06-2006, 06:40 PM
If the speed test site is overloaded which they often are, then the results appear slow which is often the case. I Suspect Geoff may have forgotten to cross check his results with another site or manual download to see if this was indeed the case. A bit of a noob mistake I have to say!

Real live speed testing via manual downloading is far more accurate.

mantermite
20-06-2006, 08:13 PM
Well my pipe was disgusting, but hopefully it will change as I am leaving Xtra and going for Telstra's package.

Will be interesting to do the test again and see what has changed in a couple of days!

MTLance
20-06-2006, 08:56 PM
My pipe is so slow must be kinda blocked. Which ISP provides the best pipes?

stu161204
20-06-2006, 08:59 PM
My pipe is so slow must be kinda blocked. Which ISP provides the best pipes?

:groan: :rolleyes: :annoyed: Search PressF1 for why that is ;)

JJJJJ
24-06-2006, 07:19 AM
Last Result:
Download Speed: 3160 kbps (395 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 133 kbps (16.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

I've been useing this test off and on for quite a while. Todays result ,above, is about my average.

3.5 plan with Ihug

Jen
24-06-2006, 07:52 AM
Last Result:
Download Speed: 3160 kbps (395 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 133 kbps (16.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

I've been useing this test off and on for quite a while. Todays result ,above, is about my average.

3.5 plan with IhugJack, you are supposed to post your results into the comments under Geoff's blog. Especially if you want to be in the draw for the prize. :D

Post it here (http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/2006/06/vroooom_updated.html#comments) :)

JJJJJ
24-06-2006, 11:03 AM
Yeah Jen, I did that after posting here and then reading the directions.
Thanks for looking after me.

Battleneter
24-06-2006, 03:46 PM
I am still very skeptical about these tests for faster connections.

Right now its shows my average download speeds on my 10Mb Telstra connection of around 4MB

Where flicking to the below test shows 6Mb "averages"
http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/module-Speedtest.phtml

If I flick to below I more likely average 7Mb
http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/meter/initialmeter.php?7512931

If I download manually from FTP using multiple sources or fast torrents can I get speeds of over around 1.05MB (around 9MB), I can do this nearly any time of the day by the way.


So to recap the speed test in this thread shows my speed at only 4MB but in real life I get 9MB, not really very useful, and very misleading for the unwary.

roddy_boy
24-06-2006, 04:13 PM
Lol didn't read the site?


This test is designed for people on residential connections with speeds of up to 4mbps. If you are on a faster connection then the results may be less accurate and not reflect your true maximum speed.

Just out of curiosity, does it measure your upstream speed accurately?

Battleneter
24-06-2006, 04:40 PM
Lol didn't read the site?



Just out of curiosity, does it measure your upstream speed accurately?


Up speeds seem more accurate yes.


Actually I should of also said, I work for a company in CHCH that has a 100MB dedicated Telstra connection. I often (usually) see real speeds 5000+ KB/s, that kilobytes not bits, and this speed test shows about 5Mb which I know is just way off.

It seems like a lot of these tests can't deal with testing much over 5MB.

Chilling_Silence
26-06-2006, 09:37 PM
Ive found the best speed test is downloading GAIM from the sourceforge (OptusNet Australian mirror)

Greven
26-06-2006, 10:00 PM
"How fat is your pipe?" I was shocked when I saw that, then I read the post & realised you were talking about internet connections.

roddy_boy
26-06-2006, 10:22 PM
rofl Greven

roddy_boy
26-06-2006, 10:44 PM
So who was teh winnah?

Master_Frost
27-06-2006, 10:03 AM
This test is designed for people on residential connections with speeds of up to 4mbps. If you are on a faster connection then the results may be less accurate and not reflect your true maximum speed.



Does make you wonder why the guy from PCworld was testing his 20Mb connection and posting the results, clearly he missed it too.

Greven
27-06-2006, 11:39 AM
can the jetstreamgames speed test handle fast connections?

Battleneter
27-06-2006, 05:40 PM
can the jetstreamgames speed test handle fast connections?


Yes jetstreamgames speed test seems to have a lot more bandwidth to test faster connections (probably more reliable all around). As you can see in the second link down it measures 64MB and did it consistently up to about 75MB on a 100Mb Telstra connection.

You have to remember to CTRL+F5 it otherwise it gives stupid cached results.

http://www.jetstreamgames.co.nz/speed/index.html


http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Battleneter/?action=view&slideshow=true

Misty
27-06-2006, 08:58 PM
From the results it looks like most of us would be better moving to iHug - or am I missing something??
Misty :waughh:

stu161204
27-06-2006, 11:21 PM
All I know is that Terry Porritt got a better result then me :(, I know I should of done my test at 1:00 am :D :p :waughh:

Master_Frost
28-06-2006, 09:08 AM
From the results it looks like most of us would be better moving to iHug - or am I missing something??
Misty :waughh:

Forgetting price and plans for a minute, from a performance quality I would say definitely not.

Most of the performance issue at the moment are based around exchange problems. People on overloaded exchanges are having problems be it on Ihug,Xtra, Orcon etc.

As all the DSL ISP's are on the Telecom network, the performance is really more about area opposed to ISP, and there are hundreds of threads in multiple forums to support this.

Having said that, no one should be on Xtra for example due to there miserable pricing for no advantage.

I think if you saw several thousand people posting there results you would see a different picture.

GhostBuster
29-06-2006, 06:24 PM
I must be lucky as everytime i do a speed test be it morning, day, night, early morning , I always get around 3520 - 3586 and for upload always 477 to 479

3.5 / 512

IHUG