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allblack
17-06-2006, 09:31 AM
Morning all. Just a quick question before I throw myself at the mercy of retailers.....

I'm thinking it's time to upgrade my video card. Current performance is starting to lag, and I'm also planning ahead for the new relaease of MS F/Sim later this year.

I currently have an ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB.

What would be a natural progression from this card if upgrading? Not sure how much they are, but let's say I haven't won Lotto, but willing to fork out for something that will see me through the next 18-24 months.

Cheers
Tim

Vallis
17-06-2006, 10:55 AM
Here's a comparison table for a zillion cards:
http://www.rojakpot.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=88&pgno=0
and there's a lot of good stuff here:
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/

pctek
17-06-2006, 11:05 AM
Heres a more relevant graphic card comparison site:

http://www.tomshardware.com/site/vgacharts/index.html

Take your pick of performance nechmarks.
This is what you need to look at.

Personally I think you should be getting PCI-E not AGP as AGP is almost obsolete now and there are limited choices available.

I wouldn't get anything less than either Nvidia 6800Ultra or ATI X1800XL.

pcuser42
17-06-2006, 11:46 AM
Another question re video cards:

I have intergrated graphics and no AGP OR PCI-e slot. Anyone know of a good (enough to run Vista) PCI graphics card?

allblack
17-06-2006, 01:25 PM
Thanks guys.

Care to give me a dumb-ass guide to the differences between PCI-e and AGP?

Thanks
Tim

Battleneter
17-06-2006, 01:46 PM
Another question re video cards:

I have integrated graphics and no AGP OR PCI-e slot. Anyone know of a good (enough to run Vista) PCI graphics card?

lol um no, you are screwed. It annoys me how some vendors sell machines and boards with no AGP or PCIE slots. You need a new board (probably new CPU maybe ram).

Battleneter
17-06-2006, 02:00 PM
Thanks guys.

Care to give me a dumb-ass guide to the differences between PCI-e and AGP?

Thanks
Tim


Put simply. They are both physically different size slot, PCIE is the new standard and has more bandwidth than AGP.

If you must stick with AGP get a 6800GS AGP, 7800GS AGP or ATI X1600 AGP. Much less than these won't perhaps seem much of an upgrade.

Of course there is a new Hybrid card

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2762

I think these are cool, but probably won't hit the market in numbers and will be exspensive.

allblack
17-06-2006, 03:00 PM
Sooo......if I wanted PCI, I need presumably a new motherboard with the appropriate slot?

pctek
17-06-2006, 04:13 PM
Sooo......if I wanted PCI, I need presumably a new motherboard with the appropriate slot?
You DONT want PCI - you want PCI-E or PCI-Express to give it its full name. Yes you will then need a new motherboard and CPU to match.

pcuser42
17-06-2006, 04:18 PM
lol um no, you are screwed. It annoys me how some vendors sell machines and boards with no AGP or PCIE slots. You need a new board (probably new CPU maybe ram).
Unfortunaly that means a new case - Dell didn't supply the standart I/O ports (it is similar to the USB headers but pin 9 is on the other side). I'll stick with XP.

pcuser42
17-06-2006, 04:21 PM
You DONT want PCI - you want PCI-E or PCI-Express to give it its full name. Yes you will then need a new motherboard and CPU to match.

The PCI slots are white, and present in all PCs. PCI-e I know nothing about, as our computers only have AGP and PCI (except mine, see above).