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R.M.
14-01-2006, 03:01 PM
Hi all - my current HDD is full and I wish to add a new one. My current system includes the following upgrade done by my computer literate son last May (currently can't get a hold of him on the phone for advice!):

AMD Athlon 64 2800+ CPU, 1.8 GHz, Socket 754, Retail Pack with fan

Gigabyte GA-K8VT800 motherboard, Socket 754, Athlon64, VIA K8T800 Chipset, 3xDIMM, DDR, 8XAGP, 5xPCI, 6xUSB 2, SATA, ATA, LAN, ATX

Thermaltake W0008RAC, Silent Purepower 420W ATX PSU, Dual Fan, Ball Bearing, Temp. Auto Control, Active PFC

Transcend 512MB, DDR-SDRAM, DIMM, DDR400 (Samsung) Leadtek GeForce FX A340 TD video card, 128MB DDR, GeForce FX 5200, 8XAGP, TV Out, DVI

I am considering a SATA HDD, a Seagate one after reading advice in PressF1.

What is the difference between:

Samsung HD160JJ Hard Disk Drive, 160GB, 7200rpm, 8192KB Cache, SATA-2/300

and:

Samsung SP1614C Hard Disk Drive, 160GB, 7200rpm, 8192KB Cache, SATA-1/150? In particular, the last - SATA-1/150 or SATA-2/300? Which would be better for my system? More particularly can I use these in my system?

I will get my reluctant electronic service person husband to do the installation - I suppose I should try myself! I'll do the necessary bits and pieces after the physical installation.

Do I need anything else? :help:

Once again, I thank you in anticipation!


Cheers
R.M. :)

Pete O'Neil
14-01-2006, 03:09 PM
Stay away from Samsung harddrives, your better off buying a Seagate drive. Your motherboard only supports SATA1 so you wont notice any benefits from getting a drive with SATA2. But if there isnt a large price difference between a drive with SATA1 and a drive with SATA2 then you may aswell get SATA2 and future proof your purchase. SATA2 is backwards compatiable with SATA1.

My storgage guru mates do reckonmend 200gb drives at the moment as they offer the best combination of size and cost, might be something worth considering. Although theres no point buying a bigger drive if you wont use the space.

Speedy Gonzales
14-01-2006, 03:15 PM
Samsung HD160JJ Hard Disk Drive, 160GB, 7200rpm, 8192KB Cache, SATA-2/300

I would say the SATA 2 hdd would be SATA 2 (which is where the 300 comes from).

This might be a bit faster if the onboard SATA mobo header supports SATA 2, NOT SATA 1, which is where the 150 comes from)

and:


Samsung SP1614C Hard Disk Drive, 160GB, 7200rpm, 8192KB Cache, SATA-1/150? In particular, the last - SATA-1/150 or SATA-2/300? Which would be better for my system? More particularly can I use these in my system?

Same as above, first u have to find out what SATA the onboard SATA supports SATA 1 or SATA 2. If its only SATA 1 onboard, getting either wouldn't really matter. If u get a SATA 2 hdd, and connected it to a SATA 1 header on the mobo, it'll most probably run at SATA 1 speed (150, not 300 ).

Elephant
14-01-2006, 03:18 PM
I am considering a SATA HDD, a Seagate one after reading advice in PressF1.

What is the difference between:

Samsung HD160JJ Hard Disk Drive, 160GB, 7200rpm, 8192KB Cache, SATA-2/300

and:

Samsung SP1614C Hard Disk Drive, 160GB, 7200rpm, 8192KB Cache, SATA-1/150? In particular, the last - SATA-1/150 or SATA-2/300? Which would be better for my system? More particularly can I use these in my system?

R.M.
I would not use a Samsung drive anyway. The first line in the quote above says Seagate. Seagate these days has a five year warranty.

R.M.
14-01-2006, 03:31 PM
Oops - I meant Seagate, although someone did suggest a Samsung, so was looking at them too.... :blush: Advice heeded.

The two HDD I was ACTUALLY considering were these two:

Seagate Barracuda ST3160812AS Hard Disk Drive, 160GB, 7200rpm, 8192KB Cache, SATA-2/300, with NCQ

Seagate Barracuda ST3160727AS Hard Disk Drive, 160GB, 7200rpm, 8192KB Cache, SATA-1/150, with NCQ

I think you have answered my questions. Thanks a lot!

Cheers
R.M. :)

Shortcircuit
14-01-2006, 04:32 PM
Either of those would do the trick, it's probably a good idea to get a HD with NCQ (native command queing) whether SATA1 or SATA2, generally means quicker 'seek' times and if you ever upgrade to Vista (when it comes) I have read that it is built to utilise NCQ.

R.M.
14-01-2006, 05:25 PM
Where would you buy? I have used Ascent before and have been happy - their prices are a little higher, but provide good service, and help when there is a problem.

So, I suppose I've answered my own question....

ung-c0h
14-02-2006, 12:25 PM
Stay away from Samsung harddrives, your better off buying a Seagate drive.

I am interested why you say this. Personally, I have found Samsung 100% reliable but Seagate not quite as reliable. Admittedly, I have had/used far more Seagates so a larger sample set will have more failures. The Samsung drives tend to run cooler (a good thing for reliability) and perform a little better than the equivalent model of Seagate though.

The Seagate 5-year warranty thing is good (vs. 3yr for Samsung), but the data is more valuable than the drive anyway. So if the Samsung is a little more reliable, then I do not care about warranty.

pctek
14-02-2006, 01:35 PM
Seagate.
Seagate.
Seagate.