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csinclair83
28-12-2005, 03:26 PM
Hey
I've been here before looking at tv tuner cards for my laptop
i've decided not to get one after all for 2 reasons, laptop not powerful enough for what i wanna do
and also i'm gonna purchase a PC later on in 2006. But I'm here for a tv tuner card anyway as
a friend got a PC for christmas, lucky bugger! and he wants to be able to do the following on his computer...

watch tv
record tv to hdd and/or directly to dvd
be able to edit programs before putting on dvd (taking out ads) (would be ok if having to buy a 3rd party software for this)
veiw captions (teletext)
and would be a massive advantage if it can RECORD the captions as well (either part of the program or seperate file but easy to access/use)
be able to attach external devices like video player, and sky digital but if its one or the other then video player has preference

When I've been looking for mine, i've seen Leadtek and Pixelveiw pro being recommended,
but on trademe some questions had answers of having to purchase 3rd party software to enable caption veiwing....
So can this please possibily have NO 3rd party software to purchase for captions, I know there might be some better editing software, but thats well known...

His computer is running..
Winxp Pro
1gig ram
160gig hdd
duallayer dvd writer
intel 4 processor

so dont think performance would be affected much....

We Look forward to your reply

Chris and Scott :D

KatiMike
28-12-2005, 03:46 PM
Recently installed a leadtek PVR 2000 - works a treat

http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=224358

:)

Speedy Gonzales
28-12-2005, 04:18 PM
The Leadtek Deluxe and Expert tuners come with a tuner program.

You can download the program and drivers, from the Leadtek site.

The program they come with, lets you record from TV and FM radio.

And also has a Channel surfing option. You can scan thru channels (normal TV), and pick a channel, and watch it.

When u install the tuner program, it'll pick the largest part of the hdd, for recording to. The program will also let u record TV as Mpeg files, and other options, and also let you burn directly to DVD.

The program also has an option for recording from CVBS/S-video. (these are inputs). These tuners also come with remote and built in teletext.

I know they work with VCR's. I tested it, by recording the original Planets of the Apes, and saving it as an Mpeg file.

I've never tried recording captions/teletext, or Sky digital. coz I dont have Sky digital.

Then you can edit/burn with Nerovision.

csinclair83
28-12-2005, 04:27 PM
Hello
Thanks for your reply.
Its ok about not knowing of recording teletext, but do you know if it actually lets you watch programs that use teletext?

bob_doe_nz
28-12-2005, 04:33 PM
The Leadtek Winfast program opens a separate window for Teletext.
So you could have the Tv window up top and the TText on the bottom of the screen

Speedy Gonzales
28-12-2005, 04:37 PM
If you mean, if it shows subtitles (like for the deaf), for programs then yes it does.

Its exactly the same as if u were using a normal teletext decoder.

You can even search for words, and print things out when using teletext.

Haze
28-12-2005, 05:04 PM
watch tv
record tv to hdd and/or directly to dvd
be able to edit programs before putting on dvd (taking out ads) (would be ok if having to buy a 3rd party software for this)
veiw captions (teletext)
and would be a massive advantage if it can RECORD the captions as well (either part of the program or seperate file but easy to access/use)
be able to attach external devices like video player, and sky digital but if its one or the other then video player has preference

Ok, well, here goes.

I have an MSI TV@Anywhere Master Series card featuring a CX2388x chip, the most advanced on the market at the moment IIRC.

The software that comes with it, Intervideo WinDVR, records to your HDD from the signal, be it Composite or Coaxial, and straight to MPEG2-compliant video (DVD). It also comes with Black Gold Teletext Lite, which as you may have guessed allows you to view Teletext (not that you will be able to pick up the words correctly).

To cut out bits of the program, it's relatively simple, first get DGindex (http://neuron2.net/dgmpgdec/dgmpgdec145.zip) and Cuttermaran (http://www.cuttermaran.de/files/Cuttermaran%201.65.zip). Now, load the file that you recorded through WinDVR into DGIndex, and go to 'File' -> 'Save Project and Demux video'. Now close DGIndex and load Cuttermaran. Load the M2V file and the MPA file created from DGIndex, now it should be relatively simple and obvious on how to trim the video, however, when adding ranges, keep in mind that they are the ranges you wish to KEEP. Now click 'Cut audio/video' and you should be sorted as it will produce a clip that can easily be parsed through a program like WinAVI Video Converter or dvdSanta to produce DVD video.

To record the captions on top of the video, a program called Dscaler is required (freeware) however, it does not fully support the CX2388x chip, so it cannot record into compressed video, so you have to put up with a HUGE amount of temporary hard drive space being used.

csinclair83
28-12-2005, 05:27 PM
Thanks heaps for your reply.
I had a look at ascent website, and there are quite a few tuners there, and I'm kind of not wanting to spend more than $150 as I want to get it really soon. But if you still reckon that one that was recommended above by KatiMike for $220 is the best one I should get then I'll be willing to save, as I'd prefer to have something that does what I want, than something that does nearly what I want lol.

Are either one of these 2 any good as well (just trying to get under price range, but as I've said before, if its really recommended then will wait a bit till i get enough funds)

http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=119681

http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=114780


Many Thanks for your help :)

Scotty

PS: I'll be making my own username 2nite or 2morrow so I dont haveta use Chris's all da time lol.

FoxyMX
29-12-2005, 08:51 AM
Scotty, you might be interested in this thread (http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?t=62966&highlight=teletext).

I still have the problem and believe it to be a reception problem, almost definitely due to the aerial. It is highly annoying. :(

D. McG
29-12-2005, 10:26 PM
Wow - Ascent still sells Compro tuners. I'd be reluctant to recommend them, though I haven't seen other tuners in action. The picture purifying technology isn't all it's cracked up to be. Okay, I'm using rabbit ears in Wellington, but there is some program included which is meant to allow tweaking of the signal decoding (TweakYC), yet it won't work with the tuner it came with.

** Nor does it seem to support Teletext, even though the PVR software has a Teletext module. **

The software is also unstable - especially the scheduling app and the process handling the remote control.

Here's an interesting question (which could prompt a survey):
Does your TV tuner card allow you to watch one channel while recording another?
(Compro seems to have overlooked that feature, though I'm not sure if that decision is widespread.)

csinclair83
02-01-2006, 08:18 PM
My comp is being a pain in the butt, so cant sign up just yet...am actually reformatting it as I type, was going to next week anyway as i'm partitioning hard drive into 3, so yea a week earlier...anywayz...
I've put here 3 links http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=224358 and http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=114780 and http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=119681 , those are the 3 tuners that I'm looking at getting one of, as you guys recommended one of them, and I've found 2 others thats in my price range, but they werent recommended...
I'm asking if some of you can tell me which one is better and why?...

I look forward to your reply :)

Scotty