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Aporosa
10-11-2005, 11:08 AM
Hi, does anyone know of an easy to use, small downloadable programme (I have budget dial-up) so I can convert some personal DVD MPEG4 video (with the two Video_RM and Video_TS files) into either AVI (preferably), DivX, Xvid or all of these formats to reduce the size? A link would be grand please. Cheers

FoxyMX
10-11-2005, 11:13 AM
VirtualDub.

bob_doe_nz
10-11-2005, 11:21 AM
VirtualDub Linky (http://www.virtualdub.org/)

Also might be worth looking at...

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/

For guides on how to do things... might be a little outdated some of those, but should do the job. :thumbs:

Aporosa
10-11-2005, 01:43 PM
I downloaded the programme and ran it, but the Open Video File refuses to open the DVD file (saying it "Cannot detect file type") movie. I've searched through the help without success. Can you assist please in simple language as I'm no computer genius. I need to convert some video to take to a school in Fiji and leave in a few days.........

bob_doe_nz
10-11-2005, 01:50 PM
Try this guide (http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd2divx.cfm) it seems to be what you need

maccrazy
10-11-2005, 03:05 PM
I'd put it in H.264 personally, provided your computer is powerful enough to encode it in a reasonable amount of time. :)

Aporosa
10-11-2005, 04:22 PM
I went to "this guide" as bob_doe suggested and it says "First of all, choose Open video file.. from File menu and select the pseudo-AVI we created with VFAPIConvert previously.". My problem is, I don't have a pseudo-AVI file, I have a normal DVD file...... I want to convert this DVD file to an AVI. Is this difficult to do?? I thought the VirtualDub could do this.... just open the orginial DVD unsing the File Open under File, and convert. But it won't allow me to open the original DVD file.... computers!!! $%$#^& ahhhhh!!!!!! Any simple assistance would be much appreciated. And what is H.264? see I'm thick when it comes to this, need simple language please.

bob_doe_nz
10-11-2005, 04:31 PM
Doh!
You need DVD decrypter (http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_decrypter.cfm)
With ripping guide @ http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/dvddec.htm

heni72847
10-11-2005, 04:50 PM
a visit to www.doom9.org or www.vcdhelp.com would provide you with all the guides and tutorial u'll ever need

you can try Auto Gordian Knot to make everything simple
i havn't used it for a long long time now though..duno what it's like now

maccrazy
10-11-2005, 08:13 PM
And what is H.264? see I'm thick when it comes to this, need simple language please.
It's a newish codec so most people haven't heard of it (it's one of the the codecs being used for Blueray and HD DVD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC)). Other than QuickTime Pro 7, I'm not sure if anything else can encode it yet but I'm sure some Windows users can offer suggestions since they seem to have an allergic reaction every time QT is mentioned (then again I run just as quickly from WMP :p ).

It is a very good codec though. Check out some demo high definition clips here (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/hd/). Obviously you aren't limited to HD, it encodes just as well at all resolutions. :thumbs:

Edit: Actually, look at the 'Software implementations' section in the Wikipedia article I linked to above for more software suggestions. :)

Metla
10-11-2005, 09:02 PM
Virtualdub will use any codec installed on your machine and its not only free but very powerful it its abilities.

Though not as intitive as some payware programs, but then Ive seen some real dogs being sold commercially.

as to H.264, is their a cost?, Im always interested in new codecs, But that has to be tempered with who you may destribute your finished project to and what codecs they may have, Imo its best to play it safe and use the more commen codecs in some cases, even though they may not be the latest and greatest.

Metla
10-11-2005, 09:25 PM
Righto, As far as I can see H.264 is a high end commercial codec, Recomending that for a home project borders on rampent stupidity.

maccrazy
10-11-2005, 11:07 PM
I wouldn't say commercial as such considering you can encode it fine on a home computer. It is really just an evolution of H.263. The only reason I would recommend being cautious of using it is if the computers you want to play it on are more than two years old because old hardware isn't really powerful enough to play content in H.264. Other than that it should definitely be a consideration when selecting a codec as it provides an exception picture (of course this is limited by the content you have in the first place) and takes up less space than many alternatives. :)

Chilling_Silence
10-11-2005, 11:12 PM
AutoGK -beta

If that doesnt bake your noodle, then Nero Recode SE will :)

Metla
10-11-2005, 11:18 PM
Cant find a real lot of info on H.264, Have you actually used it?, and if so does it work when just encoding an AVI or is it locked into authoring a DVD?

heni72847
10-11-2005, 11:31 PM
once again at doom9..some direct links about h264
info on h.264 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96059)
the codecs (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95939)

can be used at home..don't see why not..
only that some people..or most people wouldn't know how to play it
psp use it.. and um.. yea..there's a open source encoder too
i've seen video distrobuted with h264 encoding around the net
something worth looking into.. should be future proof but if you want any comp noob to play the file..stick with some more well known/mature ones

Metla
11-11-2005, 12:02 AM
Righty-ho campers.

Managed to aquire an AVI sample encoded into H.264, Installed the x286 codec and the file refused to run, after a bit of looking around I was pointed towards this...

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDShow.htm


...Which enabled playback :rolleyes:


My now try and see if I encode some video footage and see if its faster then realtime......

Metla
11-11-2005, 12:31 AM
Hmmm.

X264 isn't a codec (doh!) as far as I can see (granted I presumed too much), its an encoder that requires the video files are streamed to it by AviSynth, which works via a scripting arengment.

Too much effort, Maybe I should just grab Quicktime Pro which has native suport......

Metla
11-11-2005, 02:10 AM
Ugh.

Gone
Gone

and

Gone.

Not worth the effort, If your going to encode into H.264 then you might as well get Quicktime pro 7, Though the only reason this has it is because its the codec that the video ipod uses, I looked at the apple store and Quicktime pro is getting murdered as far as feedback goes....

Plenty of excellent codecs available, No need for this sort of carry on, Even if you buy the required programs the codec doesn't show up alongside the installed codecs so your forced to use the parent app.....

heni72847
11-11-2005, 07:37 AM
um.. i installed x264 (http://x264.nl/) and was able to use that in virtualdub and encode video in the same way as if i was doing xvid/divx

encoding is no where near real time..not on my comp anywayz
but i don't mind taking a while to encode and get good result which you keep

maybe a good idea to leave h264 for now..and go back to it later when more developed if it seems all bad right now..

Metla
11-11-2005, 09:16 AM
hhmmm......Thats the same package I installed, And it didn't show up in VirtualDub...

Thats a bit of a mystery, Something I will have to look into tonight.


No use dismissing these things as rubbish if its user error.....

maccrazy
11-11-2005, 10:29 AM
Not worth the effort, If your going to encode into H.264 then you might as well get Quicktime pro 7, Though the only reason this has it is because its the codec that the video ipod uses,
I use QT7 Pro to encoded H.264. I'm sure as the standard becomes more common there will be more options that are just as easy to use as well. As I said, it is a standard to consider. If you computer is too old to play it (or encode it) or you think the people who are going to want to play it will have difficulty then obviously it isn't the best choice. Also, H.264 is also good for video conferencing because it doesn't take up as much bandwidth and as well all know our connections in New Zealand are pretty slow so it is a great way to increase quality and lower transfer costs.


Quicktime pro is getting murdered as far as feedback goes....Most of it seems to be in terms of having to pay for it though. I agree with many of the posters. It should be included with Mac OS X rather than expecting an extra $30 each time a new version comes out. As for Windows users, I think it would benefit them to offer it free but I can understand the reluctance to give it away. I suppose $30 dollars isn't too bad though considering all the things it can do.


once again at doom9..some direct links about h264Those links are great. Thanks heni72847. :)

Metla
11-11-2005, 10:53 AM
hmmmm...I personally consider $30 dirt cheap for an encoder, The feedback I read on the 7 pages of feedback at the Apple store covered a lot of areas, Namely loss of sound, non-functioning programs, and forcing Itunes, lack of performance, and lack of support and feedback from Apple.

Such feedback has to be tempered with the fact that its generally only those with issues that place feedback, Im sure there have been a few million people download it....

maccrazy
11-11-2005, 11:24 AM
The feedback I read on the 7 pages of feedback at the Apple store covered a lot of areas
I guess I'm guilty of not reading past the first page. :p


I personally consider $30 dirt cheap for an encoder
I agree. It really isn't that expensive if you are going to use it all the time but for someone who has just paid $300 for the latest version of Mac OS X and they only want to connect a few family video clips off their digital camera and export them it could be seen as an unnecessary cost (though they could use other software). While that may not be the case, it is perceived that way by many people who don't know about the details and just want to convert a video.

Anyway, this thread seems to have good a bit off topic. Back to MPEG4 (DVD), AVI, DivX, Xvid and H.264. :thumbs: