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vista
23-10-2005, 08:23 PM
I am planning on re installing Windows XP

Got a 4GB and 6GB hd. I want to install the OS and apps i.e MS Office on the 4GB disk and data to go on 6GB.

How do you specify XP to save profiles i.e documents and settings to go on a different hard drive then be on the OS partition.

Also will this setup slow performance for disk read write or improve or make no difference at all.

I have a slow system with Cel 333Mhz cpu and normal primary/secondary IDE setup so just bit concerned on this.

basically i just want to make the setup so that i can just wipe and reinstall OS without touching the user data. Any other tips will be appreciated

Cheers

Speedy Gonzales
23-10-2005, 08:28 PM
I would get bigger hdd's 20gb+ first.

4gb or 6gb wont last long with XP. As its 1.5 GB by itself.

Not including updates. And if you install Office, and its updates, you wont have any space left.

How much memory is on the system??

vista
23-10-2005, 10:11 PM
Thanks Speedy,

I need to make do with this as i cant get any bigger hard drives.

Currently i have Win XP with MS XP on these hard drives so space is not really a problem. I'll use the 6 GB for OS. I just really need to know how to go about setting
up profile on different partition. Can someone let me know on this.

Cheers

Prescott
23-10-2005, 10:29 PM
got any other operating systems? win 98 would suit you.

winxp on a celeron 333. i think not.

vista
23-10-2005, 11:01 PM
thankx prescott- thats how its currently setup. XP runs fine on Celeron 333 though its without SP2 and all glitter is turned off.

Anybody knows how to implement profiles on another partition....thats what i am wanting to know.

Cheers

Prescott
23-10-2005, 11:31 PM
oh really, thats surprising.......

:thumbs:

pctek
24-10-2005, 07:14 AM
You can put your O/S on the 4Gb. I've done it on a 2Gb. And then added SP2. Wouldn't recommend 2Gb though - it was a hassle. But 4 is OK.
As for your other question:


Log on to the computer as an administrator.


Create a new folder.

Open the current "Documents and Settings" folder.

On the Tools menu, click Folder Options, and then click the View tab.

Under Advanced settings click Show hidden files and folders, and then
click to clear the Hide file extensions for known file types and Hide
protected operating system files check boxes.

Click OK.

Click and drag to copy all the folders to the new folder, except for
the currently logged on users folder.

In Control Panel, double-click System, and then click the User
Profiles tab.

Copy the current user's profile to the new folder.

Click OK, close Control Panel, and then log off and log on to the
computer as an administrator again.

In Registry Editor, click Find on the Edit menu.

Type documents and settings, and then click Find.

Replace the value data or rename the value or registry key to the new
path for each and every registry key and value that contains the
original path.NOTE: You must complete this change for every instance
in the registry or your computer may not start.

It is imperative that you update all registry keys and values with the
new path.

Restart the computer.


source: Windows XP Help - Microsoft Knowledge Base

vista
24-10-2005, 10:42 AM
Thanks PC Tek,

Great Info,

I had a look at MS KBASE and the steps you have mentioned work fine
for existing installation:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314843

I am planning on doing new install and MS Kbase says
to make entry in the unattend.txt file so it specifys
the location of the "Docu and Settings" folder.

And to run "Winnt32.exe /unattend"
I am not sure how to go about installing in this manner.

For normal install we just put the CD and go thru the wizard etc
I am guessing that for the above method i will need to boot into DOS mode
Get a file created and store it somewhere.

I dont want the whole process to be unattended,
just get up to the part where it specifys the location path and then
goes into normal prompt mode.

Can someone advise on this

dds
24-10-2005, 05:35 PM
i agree with Prescott

Battleneter
24-10-2005, 05:50 PM
i agree with Prescott


lol i'll third that. XP and Celeron333. Your in for some painful computing. Let me guess 128 MB of ram?

dds
24-10-2005, 05:53 PM
i think it's a challenge rather than computering.

Elephant
24-10-2005, 06:48 PM
Thanks PC Tek,

Great Info,

I had a look at MS KBASE and the steps you have mentioned work fine
for existing installation:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314843

I am planning on doing new install and MS Kbase says
to make entry in the unattend.txt file so it specifys
the location of the "Docu and Settings" folder.

And to run "Winnt32.exe /unattend"
I am not sure how to go about installing in this manner.

For normal install we just put the CD and go thru the wizard etc
I am guessing that for the above method i will need to boot into DOS mode
Get a file created and store it somewhere.

I dont want the whole process to be unattended,
just get up to the part where it specifys the location path and then
goes into normal prompt mode.

Can someone advise on this

I would install the operating system and all applications on the 6 Gig drive. All data and profiles on the 4 Gig drive. Good idea by the way.

You can make a CD that will do an unattended install and in fact I have done this.

If you can make do with a combination of you formatting the 6Gig drive and installing the O/S and applications then formatting and leaving blank the 4Gig drive then do so. You can then change the "My Documents" folder to be on the second drive without altering the registry. This will not change the profiles or other stuff like application data etc.

I find it sufficient to keep the "My Documents" folder on another partition rather than C:\. Also I export data from Outlook to another drive.

When you install WinXP there is no way whilst doing it that you will get a message as to where you want the profiles etc stored.

Surely though you only need to keep a backup or fail safe restore method to to be able to recreate all documents etc and all downloads.

How many profiles do you currently have?

Why not use a folder for each user in which to store what they like? This may be a problem in so far as I found a herd of MP3s in a subfolder off c:\windows\system32 on one system I checked.

Prescott
24-10-2005, 06:58 PM
come to think of it, i have actaully done a winxp pro install on a 2gb hdd, onlf for testing purposes, used it for a few hours, it does work, but once you start installing your programs, space is tight......

and 128mb ram..... ouch!

1Gb here and loving it, no lag.....

Elephant
24-10-2005, 08:05 PM
come to think of it, i have actaully done a winxp pro install on a 2gb hdd, onlf for testing purposes, used it for a few hours, it does work, but once you start installing your programs, space is tight......

and 128mb ram..... ouch!

1Gb here and loving it, no lag.....

Where did Vista ever say how much RAM was installed?
A person had a guess but never do we know until we are told.
Battleneter had a guess but we do not know.

Speedy Gonzales asked but no answer.

Is there only 128Meg RAM on the system in question? You apparently know but I have not had that confirmed.

Prescott
24-10-2005, 08:19 PM
touch.....

vista
03-11-2005, 07:51 PM
Thanks Elephant\Speedy\pctek for all your help and links

I finally managed to do it using a clean install. Just in case someone comes along
needing know how to do a similar setup and without the hassle of wading thru Microsoft KBase
heres how i did it.

Use setupmgr.exe found on Windows Xp CD under \Support\Tools\Deploy.cab
Go thru the setup wizard and when it prompts you save the file save it as "winnt.sif" (instead of unattend.txt if using Win XP CD for installation on host PC) on a floppy.

Open the winnt.sif file in notepad and edit as:

[GuiUnattended]
ProfilesDir =D:\foldername

Note that Windows XP does not create "Documents and Settings" folder by deafult and it will just create user profiles
under the foldername you specify. I learnt it the hard way by dping the install twice!
If you want it to be appear exactly how it appears for deafult install then use


[GuiUnattended]
ProfilesDir = "D:\Documents and Settings"

Also note that if you have a folder name with spaces in between Dos mode setup will not allow it and you will
get error as soon as Win XP boots from CD and reads the winnt.sif file. So you will need to use "

So after the editing of the winnt file on the floppy, boot PC from Win XP CD (bootable) and as soon as it goes into text mode setup it will scan floppy for the "winnt.sif" file. If you went for fully automated install during the setup wizard, then just kick back relax and
sip a copy while Windows XP installs without prompting you for any information.

Heres a sample contents of winnt.sif

Cheers

vista

=============================

;SetupMgrTag
[Data]
AutoPartition=0
MsDosInitiated="0"
UnattendedInstall="Yes"

[Unattended]
UnattendMode=ProvideDefault
OemPreinstall=No
TargetPath=\WINDOWS

[GuiUnattended]
ProfilesDir = "D:\Documents and Settings"
EncryptedAdminPassword=NO
OEMSkipRegional=1

[UserData]
FullName="Press F1 User"
OrgName="PC World"
ComputerName=anything

[Identification]
JoinWorkgroup=WORKGROUP

[Networking]
InstallDefaultComponents=Yes