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stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 08:19 PM
Hi I was wondering if there is a free program to convert DVD to an AVI File so I can edit it? :help:

tweak'e
22-07-2005, 08:33 PM
yes ....theres heaps. however you don't need to convert it to be able to edit it.

Speedy Gonzales
22-07-2005, 08:41 PM
DVDshrink will rip it. If its still around.

stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 08:46 PM
Just got a new computer with XP SP2 (Previously Had 98SE).
the only editing software I have is Windows Movie Maker. (Just Learning)
On the DVD these are the File Ext .BUP, .VOB, .IFO Files

How do I edit the DVD eg. I want to take part of the front of the video and put it at the back.

The guy that we got the computer of said we have to Decrypt it (Done that using DVD Decrypter) And convert that to an AVI File so we can edit it.

If there is an easier way please let me Know or just tell me how to do it.

:help: :help: :waughh:

Metla
22-07-2005, 08:49 PM
Virtualdub mod can edit VOB files.

stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 08:50 PM
Virtualdub mod can edit VOB files.


Is it free? and where can I get/download it from?

Metla
22-07-2005, 09:16 PM
http://www.google.co.nz/

stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 09:25 PM
How Do I Install Virtual Dub? I have downloaded it so what do I do from there?

stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 09:27 PM
[QUOTE=tweak'e]yes ....theres heaps.QUOTE]

Could you name a couple of free good ones

Speedy Gonzales
22-07-2005, 09:38 PM
Nero

http://www.nero.com will load those formats. BUT it isnt free. I think its 30 days trial or something. Till u register it.

You double click on virtualdub to install it, if u run windows, or if its zipped, u need Winzip (or use XP's built in zip program), to unzip then u install it.

This is free, BUT I dont know if it deals with the formats u want... I've never used it. http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

somebody
22-07-2005, 09:40 PM
Use AutoGK to convert to AVI (and compress file if need be), then edit using your favourate editing programe.

tweak'e
22-07-2005, 09:40 PM
[QUOTE=tweak'e]yes ....theres heaps.QUOTE]

Could you name a couple of free good ones

check out http://www.doom9.org/

i prefer Gordianknot. it depends on what you want to do. avi is not really a good format (container). i used OGM but mastroska is better.

what you really want to do is rip the DVD then edit it (mpeg2). that saves the large amount of time converting it to another format (usually lossing data). tho it all depnds on what you are going to do with the finished product of course.

stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 09:53 PM
when I rip the DVD to the Hard drive do I use DVD Decrypter?

tweak'e
22-07-2005, 09:58 PM
its been a long time since i've done it but basicly yes.

stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 10:06 PM
Hey I'm New to this.e.g DVD Burning

After I have ripped it to the Hard drive How can I edit it. I have XP SP2 with Windows Movie Maker. How can I use this to edit the Dvd. this is what I want done: I want to take part of the front of the video and put it at the end of the video.

Metla
22-07-2005, 10:10 PM
How Do I Install Virtual Dub? I have downloaded it so what do I do from there?

You don't, you run it from the folder, if you keen then drag the folder into your program files and make a shortcut to teh EXE.

Speedy Gonzales
22-07-2005, 10:12 PM
I dont think Moviemaker imports those formats.

Thats why it doesnt / wont work.

You'll have to use dvd decrypter, dvdshrink, nero, or something else to do what u want.

Metla
22-07-2005, 10:16 PM
Hey I'm New to this.e.g DVD Burning

After I have ripped it to the Hard drive How can I edit it. I have XP SP2 with Windows Movie Maker. How can I use this to edit the Dvd. this is what I want done: I want to take part of the front of the video and put it at the end of the video.

No matter what program you use you are going to have to do some ground work in order to get the desired results (this is called a learning curve)

If you want my advice then forget about alternative formats that have been put foward and commercial software as these won't work with VOB files (protected content).Look up some websites related to DVD-Decripter and then some on virtual-dub, and keep in mind both programs have help files (though I seem to remember DVD-Decripter just directs u to a site)

Anyhow, Both programs are dead simple,requring very few steps to get what you want done,but you will need to learn the basics.

Speedy Gonzales
22-07-2005, 10:23 PM
Didnt DVD decrypter die??

The version u managed to get maybe the last, (3.5.4.0), if u did manage to find it.

So, if u ticked update in it, untick it, Coz there wont be anymore versions.

stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 10:29 PM
I have Nero Express OEM Version 6.3.1.20 If That Helps.

If I do it in there How do I do it. :help:

Speedy Gonzales
22-07-2005, 10:35 PM
Use Nero Express. And change the dvd/cd burner to the dvd burner. Then select DVD video files, if the option is there. Then add one of those files.

See if will work. Then go from there. I would also read the help file in it.

And maybe update to 6.6.0.15. This is the latest version of Nero.

Do you have a DVD burner??

stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 10:42 PM
Use Nero Express. And change the dvd/cd burner to the dvd burner. Then select DVD video files, if the option is there. Then add one of those files.

See if will work. Then go from there. I would also read the help file in it.
(Could you please explain How)
And maybe update to 6.6.0.15. This is the latest version of Nero.

Do you have a DVD burner??


Yes I have A DVD Burner. and a seperate DVD Reader/CD Burner
Is that Update Free

Speedy Gonzales
22-07-2005, 10:49 PM
Yup the update SHOULD be free, (If u have 6.xx installed).

Just download it and install over the version u have. 32.63 mb.

http://www.nero.com/eng/nero-up.php

stevensaaron
22-07-2005, 10:52 PM
[QUOTE=Speedy Gonzales]Use Nero Express. And change the dvd/cd burner to the dvd burner. Then select DVD video files, if the option is there. Then add one of those files.

See if will work. Then go from there. I would also read the help file in it.QUOTE]

Could You please explain How :help: :waughh:

Speedy Gonzales
22-07-2005, 10:55 PM
I've never used Nero for those files.

Only Nerovision, which is a separate download. Just see if Nero loads whatever ifo / vob file u have and go from there. See what it does.

Chilling_Silence
23-07-2005, 12:32 AM
Basically you select "DVD Video" as the Disc Type that you wish to burn.

From there, you need to drag the files that were outputted from the likes of DVD Shrink (My preferred choice, means you can remove XYZ extras and fit it to 4.38GB) in to the Video_TS folder
Leave the Audio_TS folder on the disc, but it should be empty


Chill.

Trev
23-07-2005, 09:57 AM
I have just been reading this thread and learnt a thing or 2. I have had a DVD burner for a week and have been trying to convert AVI files to VOB files to burn to a DVD. After making about 6 or so coasters I think I have it right. The software I got with the burner was Ulead DVD Moviefactory and Nero OEM Suite V6.3.1.18F since upgraded to the full version which I payed for. Just needed a serial number to activate the full program. Without the full version, when you burn your DVD you get no sound. I got most of my help from the forums and support FAQs for the software I use.

Trevor :)

SurferJoe46
23-07-2005, 04:50 PM
DVD-Shrink (http://www.dvdshrink.org/where.html) is available and still very free. It zips the files into a .iso format, and you can then directly burn them onto disc, or what I do is just run WinRAR (http://www.rarlab.com/) , unzip them and leave them on my harddrives for playing thru POWER DVD (findable and keygen'd on a site that is findable) or played on the puter with Windows Medial Player too.

I have dedicated 4 200/g JBOD HD's just for this purpose.

I send the signal out thru the Fiber optic port on my VidCard, and all the tv's in the house can get the signal, as well as my home theater.

DVD Shrink is very good..just leave out the languages and the stuff you don't want (re-author the original when you rip it) and you'll save a lot of room. If you disable the video screen when it's ripping, it goes a little faster too. I get most movies shrunk-WinRAR'd and saved in about 3.5 to 4.25 gig. I make sure to use the 6.1 audio, but you can use whatever speaker format you have...don't try to fake it out though...the sound will get messed up a little if you tell it you want 5.1 and all you've got is 2.0.

I personally find that POWER DVD is an exceptional player. It has a lot more control for sound and special effects, and I like the multi-skins on the player too. It looks like a real theater with the velvet curtains and even some people in the audience...................not like the very simple, however good quality of Windows Player. I guess I am a sucker for glitz.

SurferJoe46
23-07-2005, 05:00 PM
...just a note here..I have a full-licensed copy of POWER DVD, as it came in the DVD burner I bought. I lost the original cd-rom with the key and everything, and the company was very nasty to me, even though I faxed them a copy of the receipt and a scan of the box it came in when I asked for a download copy of the cd. They in no uncertain terms told me to satisfy myself sexually (?) and told me that it was too bad, if I wanted another copy, I'd have to buy another DVD Burner from the company I bought the original one from. I felt very justified in getting a copy off another site that also gave me the key. I had paid for it, and was not gonna buy another to satisfy some ex-Chinese General in Taipek.

I found the original cd-rom and the original key a few months after getting the pirate version, but I am still very unhappy with the Customer (Non-) relations idiot I met in China. :D

Chilling_Silence
23-07-2005, 05:52 PM
Actually, DVD Shrink doesnt rar anything, it can make ISO's if you tell it to, but you're better off telling it to save to a HDD folder.

It'll happily rip the .vob files you need though to immediately throw in to the VIDEO_TS folder of a DVD :)

Otherwise, if you're getting it to make a .ISO you can burn the ISO off and get the same results, just a different way of doing it.

WinRAR has the annoying habit of opening ISO files by default, and it bugs the heck outta me... :(

SurferJoe46
24-07-2005, 06:14 AM
Chill..yup..you're right..but I like it that way. That way I get to keep the zipped form of the rip for ...er...future..uh...well, get my point? :cool:

Anyway, I got WinRAR, and yes as you say it default zips and changes things. I am used to using auto compilers anyway, and this isn't such a stretch for me to use.

:thumbs: It's just a happy accident that I got and I enjoy it that way.

SurferJoe46
24-07-2005, 06:42 AM
Chill........another point/question...............

I have noticed that you said something about "fitting" the rip onto the HD and staying below 4.3 g. Is that a problem? I found this was true in FAT32, but not NTFS.

Drives formatted as FAT/FAT32 are limited in the fact that the maximum supported file size is 4GB. When merging files, this can be an issue. NTFS does not suffer from this limitation. NTFS is only available (for local discs) under Windows NT / 2000 / XP. You can however 'map' to an networked NTFS drive from a Windows 95 / 98 / Me machine just fine.

Like I said, I keep both the rip and the zipped version of each dvd in the same folders..and they fit ok for me.

Jen
24-07-2005, 07:47 AM
DVD Shrink is very good..just leave out the languages and the stuff you don't want (re-author the original when you rip it) and you'll save a lot of room. If you disable the video screen when it's ripping, it goes a little faster too. I get most movies shrunk-WinRAR'd and saved in about 3.5 to 4.25 gig. I make sure to use the 6.1 audio, but you can use whatever speaker format you have...don't try to fake it out though...the sound will get messed up a little if you tell it you want 5.1 and all you've got is 2.0.Just to make sure everyone is clear on this point, in New Zealand it is illegal to copy or re-author commerical DVD movies. This board is not to be used to ask questions on how to do this either. Please read Bruce's statement here (http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showpost.php?p=242967&postcount=9) on DVD movies. Thanks.

SurferJoe46
24-07-2005, 07:51 AM
Jen: sorry again, as this post was prior to the others that you caught. I assumed that since the web is international in scope, the discussion was ok..I did not however know that copying/ripping dvd's is an illegal act in NZ...

Again, I shall comply with your notice.