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Chilling_Silence
14-06-2005, 03:34 PM
Greetings,

Ive got a mate who's looking to start some audio mixing/studio editing.

Me being kinda ignorant in the sound-card department suggested the Audigy 4, which I heard was leaps & bounds better than the Audigy 2 etc.

However, she has some aversion to anything Creative-made.

She keeps mentioning "black-box" as a soundcard, Ive never heard of it.

Savings to spend on a PC are around $4K, so we're allowing around $500 <-> $1200 for the sound-card.

Any thoughts/comments?

Cheers


Chill.

fatty
14-06-2005, 03:48 PM
Me thinks and this is just my personal opinion, that an average sound card is good enough, chances are you wont notice too much difference. However a creative sound card seems to be alrite, or purchase ur motherboard with integrated sound, mine has 7.1ch sound. You are better of spending the extra money on decent speakers, eg. around 300bucks, as this is what will dictate the quality of sound heard from your PC.

hope this helps

Big John
14-06-2005, 03:53 PM
Greetings,

Ive got a mate who's looking to start some audio mixing/studio editing.

Me being kinda ignorant in the sound-card department suggested the Audigy 4, which I heard was leaps & bounds better than the Audigy 2 etc.

However, she has some aversion to anything Creative-made.

She keeps mentioning "black-box" as a soundcard, Ive never heard of it.

Chill.

Never heard of it. You can put black boxes togeather. I have an Audigy 2 ZS Platinum which has the external box and allows anything to plu into it. Currently runniny a digital dolby signal from one other PC into it from it's onboard sound system because I have been too lazy to go out and get another sound card. Plus I already have enough speakers hanging on the wall now with 4 PC's in the room.

Speedy Gonzales
14-06-2005, 03:59 PM
I just use a Leadtek 6 ch soundcard.

A normal PCI card, which comes with a SPDIF connection.

Which has optical in/out, and RCA in/out ports. Does the trick for me.

$99, but might be cheaper now.

Metla
14-06-2005, 04:06 PM
Generally none of the above is considered acceptable by audiophiles looking to spend cash on a digital recording setup.

I have been trying to get a solid answer on which of the high end audio cards would be the mutts nutts and have come up with little.

Perhaps a dedicated audio forum would be the best place to get info, or perhaps the makers of high end software (like Protools) have recomendations as to hardware.

Chilling_Silence
14-06-2005, 04:13 PM
I was on the same train of thought - I tried the JACK forums (Jack is linux software) because they require low-latency patches for the linux kernel... Didnt see anything there.

So far the concensus is that a normal sound-card should suffice and the "black-box" doesnt exist? Sounds like something outa an airplane...


Chill.

Metla
14-06-2005, 04:16 PM
It exists

http://www.epinions.com/Sound_Cards--reviews--black_box


And looks rubbish, The creative card would pants it,

Rob99
14-06-2005, 04:21 PM
Some links:

Black Box (http://www.berm.co.nz/cgi-bin/zzounds/item.cgi?MDOBLACKBOX)

Garage Door (http://www.thegaragedoor.com/gear/mixers.html)

DVT (http://www.dvt.co.nz/index.php/ps_pagename/productlisting/pi_categoryid/3)

Global Media Pro (http://www.globalmediapro.com/video/products/Datavideo_SE800_Digital_Video_Mixer_PAL--937.html)

Jands (http://www.jandsnz.com/pages/1034216641236313.html?news_id=79)

b1naryb0y
14-06-2005, 04:21 PM
Will she be using Analog or Digital Out?

Most cards have good digital out sound quality, but very few have good analog quality due to using crappy DACs

drcspy
14-06-2005, 04:44 PM
$500 <-> $1200 for the sound-card.
......man........THATS seriously *fussy*

plod
14-06-2005, 04:55 PM
You could check on the apple forums, there are a lot of people doing audio work over there.apple (http://discussions.info.apple.com/)

KatiMike
14-06-2005, 06:01 PM
The M-Audio cards are popular for use in digital audio workstations

A very popular model is the Audiophile 2496

And the price sounds about right at $436

http://www.ascent.co.nz/mn-product-spec.asp?pid=334125

There are many reviews on the web , annd overall it'll perform a lot better than any Creative job [ impt = lower latency / ASIO or ASIO2 support ] for this kind of job , and they can always run another [ eg Creative ] card at the same time for gaming etc with all the 5.1 trimmings etc

I presume your friend is running Windows - the M-Audio is also fine on the Mac , but I'm not sure about Linux

Mike

ad_267
14-06-2005, 06:43 PM
I'm not sure if this is the kind of thing you're looking for but I used to have a digidesign mbox (http://www.digidesign.com/) which is an external sound card that connects via USB for recording and works with PC or Mac. I think it cost around $900