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Tribomb
09-03-2005, 04:06 PM
Hi
It might be a stupid question, but I just dont know.. How would I go about reforamting my computer? It is running windows XP, if you need to know that.
Thanks

Speedy Gonzales
09-03-2005, 04:10 PM
Hopefully u have the CD.

Chuck the CD in the cdrom.

You have to go into the BIOS and change bootdisk to CD. Save the settings reboot. CD will boot, u may see a message on the post screen saying press a key or similar. (press a key ONCE - NOT everytime the XP install reboots).

Do that. Let XP do its thing, until it finishes installing. Then change the bootdisk back to hard drive, once XP has been installed. Thats it. Just remember to get what u want OFF the hdd, before u reformat it.

Tribomb
09-03-2005, 04:12 PM
Oh, ok. Thanks. Pushing F8 when i restart the computer, it says how would you like to boot, rater than safe mode options etc, so if i picked the CD Rom drive from that, would that do it?

Speedy Gonzales
09-03-2005, 04:16 PM
If that system is an ASUS, (like a P4P800), then yes it is F8, (And the delete key), if u have an ASUS system, then select CD-ROM. As the boot disk.

F8 on this mobo, will let u boot (it brings up a menu, with bootable devices), and it's also for getting the menu for safe mode etc. You just have to wait a bit longer to press F8 to get into the menu which shows safe mode.

Tribomb
09-03-2005, 04:34 PM
Yea, i have Asus.
thanks for your help

drcspy
09-03-2005, 04:39 PM
good luck.......you are aware that formatting removes ALL the data from the pc ?..........and reinstalling windoze wont reinstall your office/works/etc etc programs..........and then you got possible problems with drivers for your video /sound/modem/motherboard.......what makes you want to format it ?

Tribomb
09-03-2005, 04:47 PM
Yeah. I am formatting because I got a virus, i am not sure it has gone, my computer is still going slow even after all the scans have been done, and all other things done. I have all the drivers right here, the computer is new, so I have the drivers all here :D And I still have office, it is able to be used on three PCs, so it should be Ok, and I will just download everything that i use again.

FoxyMX
09-03-2005, 05:09 PM
You MUST have a firewall enabled before going back on the internet after the reformat so if you don't have a MS SP2 upgrade disk just remember to have a firewall handy on a CD to install immediately after reformatting and BEFORE you go on the internet or you will be back to square one again.

theother1
09-03-2005, 05:48 PM
Have you backed up all your data?????
Why don't you just get AVG Free and run a full system scan?
It scares me when people talk so blithely about reformatting, having done it once when upgrading from W95 to W98 SE I wouldn't do it lightly.

brig
10-03-2005, 07:13 AM
It scares me when people talk so blithely about reformatting, having done it once when upgrading from W95 to W98 SE I wouldn't do it lightly.

Do not let this writer's bad experience put you off expanding your competence in computers.

My first reformat which was well researched and planned, and with the help of an experienced friend, was the most exciting thing I have ever done with a computer.

It opened up a whole new world of freedom from the fear of not knowing what to do in the event of a major crash or virus hit. It also encouraged me to start to learn how all the bits are put together and how to research the web for answers when things went wrong.

There is little that can go wrong with your computer system software that can't be put right with a reformat and you will have the huge bonus of being able to do it all yourself without having to pester more able friends or pay a professional to do it for you.

If you can read you can do a reformat

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Sleepy
10-03-2005, 02:12 PM
out of curiosity how much would professional pay to format a computer and the time taken to do it?

Speedy Gonzales
10-03-2005, 02:33 PM
out of curiosity how much would professional pay to format a computer and the time taken to do it?

Most probably 40-50 an hr. Cant remember what the shop down the road charges. BUT for trojans it's $50!

I usually charge $30-40 an hr to install windows / whatever....for mates who want me to format / reinstall / fix up their systems.

Sleepy
10-03-2005, 02:38 PM
Most probably 40-50 an hr. Cant remember what the shop down the road charges. BUT for trojans it's $50!

I usually charge $30-40 an hr to install windows / whatever....for mates who want me to format / reinstall / fix up their systems.

hmm... expensive as, and how long would it take you to format/reinstall/ fix up their computers? Well maybe a total price of time & $ would be better.

saikou
10-03-2005, 02:41 PM
I usually charge $30-40 an hr to install windows / whatever....for mates who want me to format / reinstall / fix up their systems.


Out of curiosity, what qualifaications do you have?

mark c
10-03-2005, 02:46 PM
Impossible to say before you do coz you never know what complications you're going to run into. Updated drivers are a real hitch. And as for a cleanup , like trojans and what not you never know till you get stuck in and a re-install is not aotomatically the easiiest/cheaped option.

Took me five hours to clean up a mate's PC.

But then I do it for free and fun.

Speedy Gonzales
10-03-2005, 04:13 PM
I dont have any qualifications Saikou. I just know what I'm doing.

I do this in my spare time. Sometimes, I'll do it for nothing. Depends on how long it takes. Some systems dont take as long as others.

If the OS is XP and the system is slow as hell, it can take 1-2 hrs + just to install XP!!

Then if they have net access, I'll get the updates (if they dont know what to do).

And yer if anything like cds, or dvd's need to be installed, I'll do that too.

Greg
10-03-2005, 04:21 PM
what qualifaications do you have?

Who cares, as long as the person is competent.

theother1
10-03-2005, 04:51 PM
Brig,
Don't get me wrong. I was merely recommending caution to this person who it seems to me is inexperienced in opening the bonnet. I still think that a reformat should be a last resort option rather than the first choice of remedies.
There are also a lot of people who have lost original disks (if they had them), or have downloaded programs from the net and don't have them on disk or don't have the activation codes.
When I did the upgrade I referred to I had all the disks and it still took me a weekend to reinstall all the programs and restore all my preferences. Some people might think that is a good way to spend a weekend, me, I've got better things to do.
Rob

Renmoo
10-03-2005, 10:39 PM
Most probably 40-50 an hr. Cant remember what the shop down the road charges. BUT for trojans it's $50!

I usually charge $30-40 an hr to install windows / whatever....for mates who want me to format / reinstall / fix up their systems.
I am charging between $29.90 to $39.90 an hr to install windows / whatever....for mates who want me to format / reinstall / fix up their systems. Cheaper by 10 cents compare to Speedy Gonzalez. Anybody need my help, contact me. Remember, cheaper by 10 cents compare to Speedy. Just memorise the keyword, cheaper than Speedy, the speedier my pc goes. :D

Cicero
10-03-2005, 11:16 PM
Who cares, as long as the person is competent.

I am with you on that Greg.
Mind you if my mate charged me as Speedy charges his mates,they would become an ex friend,a bit like the parrot. ;)

Speedy Gonzales
10-03-2005, 11:20 PM
lol why shouldnt I. I have to get money from somewhere.

If it grew on trees, I wouldnt bother.

Laura
10-03-2005, 11:51 PM
I don't want to hijack the thead, but out of curiosity...
How do you format without the CD?
My 98SE was installed on a 2nd hand ex-office Machine, bought from a firm specialising in those.
The only CD I was given was Internet Explorer.
Under Software Licenses, Belarc Advisor shows me a (registration?) no. starred with a warning:
"This may be the manufacturer's factory-installed product key rather than yours."
So IF I had to do the dreaded deed, what problems would that bring
(Please don't tell me just to upgrade to XP)

Cicero
10-03-2005, 11:55 PM
I don't want to hijack the thead, but out of curiosity...
How do you format without the CD?
My 98SE was installed on a 2nd hand ex-office Machine, bought from a firm specialising in those.
The only CD I was given was Internet Explorer.
Under Software Licenses, Belarc Advisor shows me a (registration?) no. starred with a warning:
"This may be the manufacturer's factory-installed product key rather than yours."
So IF I had to do the dreaded deed, what problems would that bring
(Please don't tell me just to upgrade to XP)
Don't you fancy XP,it is brilliant. ;)

Speedy Gonzales
11-03-2005, 12:00 AM
Is your hard drive partitioned Laura?.

Or do you have a cd writer? Some kind of backup drive??

Laura
11-03-2005, 12:25 AM
Is my hard drive partitioned?
Well, uummm, Speedy.
(Tries to think of roundabout way of dodging saying she doesn't actually know)
Let's just say I've seen no evidence that it is when investigating info about its innards.
I have a floppy drive (never used) which from memory is A or B? My C drive has all my software & programmes. D is a CD player - not writer, sadly.
That leaves an A or B gap, but I've always presumed the sellers provided a very basic machine - to be customised by the buyer.
And the novice buyer's never felt the need to do anything like partitioning. I couldn't see any advantages.
So am I wrong in that? .

Renmoo
11-03-2005, 05:47 AM
So, I presumed Laura, that A or B is your FDD (just in case you forgotten, it is floppy disk drive) C is your HDD and D is your CD-ROM? Is there anymore letters that show in your "My Computer"?

Speedy Gonzales
11-03-2005, 09:07 AM
And the novice buyer's never felt the need to do anything like partitioning. I couldn't see any advantages.
So am I wrong in that? .

The advantage of partitioning, is say u have an 80 gb hdd. You can partition this into say 2 40gb partitions, or 4 20 gb partitions.

Then if u want to format the hdd, I think u can copy C/windows (you may have to copy more folders, or wherever the cab files are held), to a spare partition, format and reinstall windows from that partition.

And back up files like your address book, bookmarks from the browser etc as well.

Thats what I do here. I also copy XP updates to a spare partition, just in case, I have to format. That way, I wont have to redownload the updates once I reinstall XP. And other programs like Adobe reader etc.

The other good thing about partitioning is, if u get a virus on some part of the hdd (say a partition u created), it shouldnt affect the partition, the operating system is installed on. Altho, both partitions are physically on the same hard drive. The partition acts like a separate part of the hdd altogether. (as if u had 2 different hard drives).

As a new partition will also create a new letter. (ie: the main hdd letter is C).

The more partitions u create, it'll create more letters (ie: D,E,F,G etc) in windows.

Blade2
11-03-2005, 02:24 PM
You MUST have a firewall enabled before going back on the internet after the reformat so if you don't have a MS SP2 upgrade disk just remember to have a firewall handy on a CD to install immediately after reformatting and BEFORE you go on the internet or you will be back to square one again.

It is often necessary to do a clean install, things often get messy (virus, even legitimate apps). If it is XP it sure is a good idea to have firewall if u hooked to an ADSL, I worked at a University and reformated a pc around time of Sasser running amok and within minutes it was infected again.
Re-formatted and then patched, then reconnected to the network.

saikou
11-03-2005, 03:53 PM
Who cares, as long as the person is competent.
I'm interested to see how he justifies charging that rate for performing simple tasks.

If he has spent money on Microsoft Certification, then I can understand.

If a person has no certification it is difficult to determine competancy without letting them go to work and hoping.

Sleepy
11-03-2005, 04:03 PM
I'm interested to see how he justifies charging that rate for performing simple tasks.

If he has spent money on Microsoft Certification, then I can understand.

If a person has no certification it is difficult to determine competancy without letting them go to work and hoping.

Like what sort of Microsoft Certification qualification should people have to do this sort of thing, and charge that rate?

Speedy Gonzales
11-03-2005, 04:04 PM
Why should I spend $9000 going to a course (to get MS certification) for something I dont need, if I know what I'm doing??

Thats how much it'll cost to do this course, to get certification. You gonna give me a loan Saikou?

And coz the people I know, know what I can do, and they trust me.

And I've made 2 systems before (P4's), and never had a prob with them.

They're still running now coz we use them here. So, what does that tell you?

zqwerty
11-03-2005, 04:29 PM
If you have spent any time on this forum at all you will know that Speedy Gonzales is "totally onto IT" BIG TIME.

Speedy Gonzales
11-03-2005, 04:41 PM
If you have spent any time on this forum at all you will know that Speedy Gonzales is "totally onto IT" BIG TIME.

Here here Zqwerty :thumbs:

Thanx for the vote :)

Jen
11-03-2005, 06:21 PM
Tribomb: Did you get your OS successfully reinstalled or are you still requiring help. Thread got a bit hijacked I see.

If you still need help, there are a couple of installation guides with pictures etc for Windows XP which explain all the steps involved.

Windows XP Home - installation guides (http://www.windowsreinstall.com/indexwinxp.htm)

Windows XP Home Install Guide (http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/OS/InstallXPHome/installxphome1.htm)

JasonEdward
11-03-2005, 09:33 PM
Speedy sure don't charge me nuttin' for his time on da forum Saikou (Psycho).

Please don't ask your accountant or lawyer what they charge or you'd have a heart attack - and let me know if you know of any legal advice service that gives the kind of detaiul for free that Speedy and others do on this and other forums.

Now, Speedy, get up and see if your head still fits through the doorway. If not, bring up another Saikou post, call an ambulance and head butt your PC screen until you lose consciousness. When you awaken the medics will have enlarged your doorway and reduced your swollen head.

But hey, keep up da good work Speedy, and no hard feelings Saikou, OK?

theother1
11-03-2005, 09:37 PM
Speedy sure don't charge me nuttin' for his time on da forum Saikou (Psycho).

Please don't ask your accountant or lawyer what they charge or you'd have a heart attack - and let me know if you know of any legal advice service that gives the kind of detaiul for free that Speedy and others do on this and other forums.

Now, Speedy, get up and see if your head still fits through the doorway. If not, bring up another Saikou post, call an ambulance and head butt your PC screen until you lose consciousness. When you awaken the medics will have enlarged your doorway and reduced your swollen head.

But hey, keep up da good work Speedy, and no hard feelings Saikou, OK?

How Droll.

Myth
11-03-2005, 10:07 PM
If you have spent any time on this forum at all you will know that Speedy Gonzales is "totally onto IT" BIG TIME.

Well, I haven't been in this forum for long, but I have been taking note of those who know what they are on about, and those who don't. I would have to admit that in my humble opinion Speedy certainly seems to know what hes talkin about.


If he has spent money on Microsoft Certification, then I can understand.

Microsoft Certification doesn't mean much to the average person. It would only mean something if you were a business looking for a Systems Engineer, or such like.

Most technicians are CompTIA approved from what I can gather.

Jen
11-03-2005, 11:02 PM
Speedy sure don't charge me nuttin' for his time on da forum Saikou (Psycho).Are you calling Saikou names here?! Not impressed with your alteration of the Subject title either. Please don't get personal here.

Keep it friendly or don't post it JasonEdward


Let's gets back on topic. This is not the Chat Forum.

zqwerty
11-03-2005, 11:59 PM
I think you missed the point Jen.

zqwerty
12-03-2005, 12:26 AM
Have a good night everyone.