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Perry
22-01-2005, 12:49 PM
A tale of three PCs on a home LAN. Win2k on 2 PCs(NTFS),
WinXP on the third. ADSL router modem as the switch/hub.
All machines can access the WWW. But printer sharing is
a nightmare. File and device (CDRW) sharing is as bad.
Why is it soooo difficult? This is a home LAN. Two grandparents
and one (responsible) grand daughter. Paranoic security
is quite obscene.

This type of problem seems to be spoken of in hushed tones,
even by techs. If it's too complex to cover on this forum, can
anyone point me to a manual, or a web site or some other
resource that will give me step-by-step instructions. Pretty
please. The matter is driving me to drink! (more!)

Perry the perplexed

johnboy
22-01-2005, 12:54 PM
Try this web page.
http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/contact.htm
hth

Speedy Gonzales
22-01-2005, 01:04 PM
I wouldnt bother trying to share burners. Sharing was made for printers and folders, not burners over a network. If u have a firewall on any of them remember to add the ips to it, or if u have something like Norton Internet Security, use the Home Networking option in NIS to configure the LAN.

Perry
22-01-2005, 01:16 PM
I wouldnt bother trying
to share burners.

Does that comment apply also to drag and drop
files using explorer? (Which is mostly what gets done)


If u have a firewall on any of them remember
to add the ips to it, or if u have something like Norton
Internet Security, use the Home Networking option in
NIS to configure the LAN.

I've turned off the firewall on the XP machine and I don't
think the two W2k PCs have it installed/working. But I'll
check, after I checked out the website suggested by
johnboy. ips = IP addresses - right? We have static
IPs for each PC and the DSL router/modem.

Perry

Speedy Gonzales
22-01-2005, 01:27 PM
Does that comment apply also to drag and drop
files using explorer? (Which is mostly what gets done)

Yup, I would say, if u only have 1 burner and u want 2 other PC's to use it, I dont think it would work properly with drop and drag, (well anything to do with the burner).

What program are you using for the burning?? XP's built in burning or something like INCD (Nero), or CD Creator/DirectCD?

Is the burner on the XP PC?

I've turned off the firewall on the XP machine and I don't
think the two W2k PCs have it installed/working. But I'll
check, after I checked out the website suggested by
johnboy. ips = IP addresses - right? We have static
IPs for each PC and the DSL router/modem.

Perry

Yup ip = ip addresses thats correct. Can any of the 3 PC's
share folders at all? Or is it just XP you're having trouble with,
with sharing a folder?? from the 2k computers??

Have u created a folder on each PC then shared that folder?

And on XP in My computer / tools/folder options/general / simple file sharing is ticked. This will save u adding both of the 2k PC's as guests to access the XP folder.

Not shared the whole hard drive?

Perry
22-01-2005, 09:38 PM
Yup, I would say, if u only have 1 burner and u want 2 other PC's to use it, I dont think it would work properly with drop and drag, (well anything to do with the burner).
My grand daughter has used explorer to drag
and drop data files to the CDRW on her grand
mother's PC. There didn't seem to be any real
difficulties with that. (We were having a network
impasse at that time, so she did that and took the
CD to my PC so she could print the job on the
LAN default [laserjet] printer).

Which raises another point: what's the position
with printer drivers on Linux?


What program are you using for the burning?? XP's built in burning or something like INCD (Nero), or CD Creator/DirectCD?
I found XP to be a nefarious OS to rely upon
for writing to a CDRW. I've used both InCD
and DirectCD to format data CDs. But XP
refused to write to (but would read) such CDs,
even though the CD s/w section of XP is
attributed to Roxio - creators of Direct CD!!!


Is the burner on the XP PC?
No. There's one on each of the W2k PCs.


Yup ip = ip addresses thats correct. Can any of the 3 PC's
share folders at all? Or is it just XP you're having trouble with,
with sharing a folder?? from the 2k computers??

I need to take this question in manageable bites.
One W2K PC (wife's) can't access the default printer
on my W2k PC. When attempting to install my
printer on her machine as the default LAN
printer, I get access denied/don't have per-
mission response (of sorts). I went to bed in
disgust (it was midnight!) and my recall may
have suffered accordingly.

(W2k Prof - BTW.)


Have u created a folder on each PC then shared that folder?
No. Do I need to do that? What I'm seeking
is to share all drives and all devices (scanner
excepted) on all PCs.


And on XP in My computer / tools/folder options/general / simple file sharing is ticked. This will save u adding both of the 2k PC's as guests to access the XP folder.
I'll need to try that, later. Until I start that
PC and look at what you suggest, I'm ignorant
of what you describe.


Not shared the whole hard drive?
I don't grasp what you mean, there. I do want open
sharing across all machines. Security paranoia is not
a healthy attribute in this home environment.

Perry

johnd
22-01-2005, 10:06 PM
Which raises another point: what's the position
with printer drivers on Linux?
Perry

Have a look at http://www.linuxprinting.org/ - most printers are well supported out of the box - others have drivers available from this site.

godfather
22-01-2005, 10:14 PM
Sharing a CD-RW drive is not wise.

The writing of a CD requires that the data to be written is fully available to meet the stream being written, little bufferring is able to be done in the drive. Networks are not good at making it available in this "real time", so many coasters could result.

Speedy Gonzales
22-01-2005, 10:50 PM
Yup I wouldnt try and network burners as Godfather has
stated. Or scanners for that matter. If u want to burn
on XP disable XP's built in burning. Its a major PITA!

XP's built in cd burning is limited in what it can do.
It isnt reliable.

OK. Not too sure what 2k can do, or cant do.

Have never really used it, or had it installed long enough.

With file sharing, its a good idea NOT to share the whole
hard drive ONLY a folder between each PC. Sharing the WHOLE
hard drive, if u get hacked or something like a worm gets through.

(Well thats if u want to do file sharing).

That could be the end of 3 systems until you reinstall.

Hmm couldnt quote what u said as it kept on coming up with something
begin too short!. So, had to do a reply.

Tux
22-01-2005, 10:57 PM
why not get a cd burner for your xp machine, they are veyr cheap these days, about $30-40 bucks

pc_doctor
23-01-2005, 03:40 AM
A tale of three PCs on a home LAN. Win2k on 2 PCs(NTFS),
WinXP on the third. ADSL router modem as the switch/hub.
All machines can access the WWW. But printer sharing is
a nightmare. File and device (CDRW) sharing is as bad.
Why is it soooo difficult? This is a home LAN. Two grandparents
and one (responsible) grand daughter. Paranoic security
is quite obscene.

This type of problem seems to be spoken of in hushed tones,
even by techs. If it's too complex to cover on this forum, can
anyone point me to a manual, or a web site or some other
resource that will give me step-by-step instructions. Pretty
please. The matter is driving me to drink! (more!)

Perry the perplexed

Hi what is win2k. It does help if you have XP on all the machines you are going to network.

Speedy Gonzales
23-01-2005, 09:31 AM
Win2k is Windows 2000

pc_doctor
24-01-2005, 01:25 AM
Win2k is Windows 2000
why do they call it Win2k

Perry
24-01-2005, 11:48 AM
why do they call it Win2k?
An abbreviation for us older and slower typists.

Perry

Speedy Gonzales
24-01-2005, 12:03 PM
why do they call it Win2k

2k is short for 2000 same diff.

The same as when they called the Y2K bug the Y2K bug.

When the year 2000 came up.