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noone
16-12-2004, 11:15 AM
Great New Forum

Anyway , i want to buy a new graphics card until i can afford to buy a new duel core (hopefully ) pci express system. I have the max of $250 to buy this and have currently the following choices

Radeon 9600pro 256megs
Radeon 9600XT Ultra 128meg
Legend 9800se 128meg
G Force 5700 Ep/xt/le 256megs

Thanks , all help will be great

~sy~
16-12-2004, 11:19 AM
I would be inclined to go with the 9600XT Ultra. I have heard that the 9600XT's are one of the best value for money graphic cards on the market. I personally haven't heard of anyone needing a 256mb card.

noone
16-12-2004, 11:20 AM
yeah thats what i was thinking as well - its the most expensive though but i think i will be worth it

HadO
16-12-2004, 11:21 AM
Out of that list I would go for the 9600xt - it should far out preform the 9800 SE (also known as S**t Edition - use you imagination).

Zygar
16-12-2004, 11:22 AM
Well, the 9800SE cards have worse performance than the 9600series, so avoid that. The Geforce FX series is rubbish, unless of course you will be running linux or primarily opengl games, which is when you'll want a Geforce FX. You don't need 256mb on a 9600pro, makes no difference as the chip doesn't have the power to use more than 128mb anyway... so that leaves you with one option, the 9600XT. Go with that.

noone
16-12-2004, 11:25 AM
i heard the Gigabyte ultra 9600xt was the best type - also comes with three games

Metla
16-12-2004, 12:03 PM
easy choice

Radeon 9600XT Ultra 128meg

Provided Ultra doesn't mean kneecapped, The marketing behind video cards is a bit smelly sometimes.

The Legend 9800se would be best used as fuel to start a small fire.....

noone
16-12-2004, 12:05 PM
cool , thanks for that all

noone
16-12-2004, 04:33 PM
if i had another $50 (300) do you all still think i should get the same card - excluding gst and all that extra stuff

HadO
16-12-2004, 04:36 PM
If you get some model names we can look at them but realistically apart from the card that was recommended your only next logical step would be up to a 9800PRO (unsure on price these days).

Pete O'Neill
16-12-2004, 04:48 PM
easy choice
Radeon 9600XT Ultra 128meg


I disagree there. I recommend going with the Geforce 5200 XT, it is a much superior card. For $250 you could get two of them, then you can run them in SLI mode. Seriously man, you should see it open up a can of whoop-ass on Doom 3!

HadO
16-12-2004, 04:51 PM
I disagree there. I recommend going with the Geforce 5200 XT, it is a much superior card. For $250 you could get two of them, then you can run them in SLI mode. Seriously man, you should see it open up a can of whoop-ass on Doom 3!

So you get better OpenGL performance for Doom3 and have to fork out for a new mobo... :confused:

bah

noone
16-12-2004, 05:20 PM
i do only have one AGP port - how do you get two

HadO
16-12-2004, 05:22 PM
You would have to buy a brand spanking new motherboard - don't worry about it - waste of money as your CPU probably wouldn't fit.

noone
16-12-2004, 05:22 PM
for 300$ the new additions are

GeForce FX 5600 Ultra 128MB
GeForce FX 5900 XT 128MB
Radeon 9800 256MB
Radeon 9600 XT 256MB
Radeon 9700 128MB
Radeon 9600 256MB

noone
16-12-2004, 05:24 PM
my current system is a Amd xp2800 with a gig of ram - this system as stated earlier only needs to last around a year - a year and a half until i can get a new system so im only upgrading the gfx so i can play next years games

HadO
16-12-2004, 05:33 PM
Obviously the 9800 will be the most powerful but it really depends on what model it is. If it's the SE model you should still go with the 9600XT but what do you have at the moment? Do you really need the upgrade?

I wouldn't bother getting an nVIDIA card unless your going for the latest gen ones (6600/6800 etc).

noone
16-12-2004, 06:07 PM
i Have a 9200 - i think this qualifies for a upgrade

Zygar
16-12-2004, 06:31 PM
Sell your 9200- that should net you around $80, and buy a 9800pro for around $300-$350. If you can't afford that, maybe buy a second hand 9800pro/9700pro?

~sy~
16-12-2004, 06:49 PM
Sell your 9200- that should net you around $80, and buy a 9800pro for around $300-$350. If you can't afford that, maybe buy a second hand 9800pro/9700pro?

Very good idea. BTW, anyone know what's wrong with PriceSpy (http://www.pricespy.co.nz).. It seems to be down? :o

noone
16-12-2004, 10:09 PM
$80 in my dreams - prob get around $40 ,since its around 70 new

Prescott
16-12-2004, 10:25 PM
Very good idea. BTW, anyone know what's wrong with PriceSpy (http://www.pricespy.co.nz).. It seems to be down? :o

it seems to work fine for me, xtra flate rate dialp :)

noone
16-12-2004, 10:34 PM
its been up and down all day - just try again

noone
16-12-2004, 10:39 PM
how about this
GE-Cube ATI 9800 eXtreme 256MB with DVI and CS2
http://www.metratonit.co.nz/customer/product.php?productid=863&cat=26&page=1


Presscott - xtra dialup is so over priced , orcon is half that

HadO
16-12-2004, 10:48 PM
Yeah that would be a good one - it's an R360 (XT) chip so with some luck you will be able to overclock it to 9800XT speeds if your that way inclined ;)

HadO
16-12-2004, 10:49 PM
Actually that could be an XT - it has an R360 core and 256MB RAM and is clocked higher than a PRO ;)

Prescott
16-12-2004, 10:56 PM
Presscott - xtra dialup is so over priced , orcon is half that

yeah i see that, but the olds have xtra and have a email address there and they wanna keep it, so im happy cos i dont have to pay the bill :) :p

noone
16-12-2004, 11:04 PM
isnt the cheapest jetstream plan $40 and you are paying $30

Prescott
16-12-2004, 11:16 PM
we cant get jetstream out here buddy, apperantly we are too far away from the exchange :rolleyes:
besides thats only 3gig or not? and at that sort of speed i would be downloading even more :rolleyes:

Metla
17-12-2004, 12:29 AM
how about this
GE-Cube ATI 9800 eXtreme 256MB with DVI and CS2
http://www.metratonit.co.nz/customer/product.php?productid=863&cat=26&page=1


Presscott - xtra dialup is so over priced , orcon is half that



Bah.

Its a stock standerd 9800 that they have OC'd at the factory and used a 128 bit memory controller, The specs on your link are wrong.

Heres the real info.

http://www.gecube.com/mbu/productCategory.php?proID=65

and in a nutshell GECUBE RADEON 9800 (R360 VPU) 128-bit 256MB



128-bit being the important item.

HadO
17-12-2004, 12:33 AM
Good spotting Metla - seemed too good to be true - 9800XT for $300 :confused:

Metla
17-12-2004, 12:39 AM
Yeah, When these cards apeared on the pricelists i looked into em and decided not to sell em due to them being 128-bit cards,I just had to track down dome info.

I also found this.

Info-Tek, producer of the leading GECUBE brand name graphics cards, has announced its latest high-end optimized 3D graphics card – the GECUBE RADEON® 9800 eXTreme – built on ATI® RADEON® 9800(R360) 128bit core graphics technology (VPU). Like the RADEON® 9800XT, the GECUBE RADEON® 9800 eXTreme uses a powerful 8-pipeline architecture coupled with 128-bit memory bandwidth to meet the demands of the most serious gamers looking for extreme high-end graphics processing power.

With a overclock speed up to 400MHz, the GECUBE RADEON® 9800 eXTreme supports the latest DirectX9.0 and OpenGL® standards and is compatible with 128MB/256MB DDR memory to provide resolutions up to 1280x1024. With twice the efficiency of a normal graphics card, the GECUBE RADEON® 9800 eXTreme is an excellent value for gamers and is also the highest efficiency 3D graphics card in the high-end graphics market.

Additionally, the GECUBE RADEON® 9800 eXTreme supports multiple video output standards including VGA, DVI and TV, and includes a variety of interface connectors such as: DVI-VGA converter, S-Video cable and AV cable for high-speed video processing and outstanding image conversion to achieve theatre-like picture quality. The GECUBE RADEON® 9800 eXTreme also includes FULLSTREAM™ and SMOOTHVISION™ 2.1 technologies so that you can get the most out of all your 3D multimedia applications.

GECUBE comes packaged with the latest games including full versions of the popular Counter-Strike (single-player and multiplayer), as well as full-function DVD playback software. The GECUBE RADEON® 9800 eXTreme’s thoughtful design allows users to immediately experience the thrill of extreme graphics performance.

About GECUBE RADEON® 9800 eXtreme
- Powered by ATI® RADEON® X800XT chipset.
- Features 8-pipeline architecture for top rendering power, with a overclock speed up to 400MHz
- FULLSTREAM™ removes blocky artifacts from streaming Internet video to deliver smoother looking, higher quality online content.
- Supports DirectX® 9.0C and the latest OpenGL® 1.5 functionality.
- 3Dc technology provides High-detail compressed normal maps make low poly 3D objects appear more detailed.







When buying a video card the only way to play it safe is to buy the best card in the range you can afford,rather then the cheapest in the next range up......

HadO
17-12-2004, 12:42 AM
Man I'd be pissed if I bought one off that site and then found out it was a 128er... I guess thats what research is for :)

~sy~
17-12-2004, 09:18 AM
Just briefly looking at PriceSpy (http://www.pricespy.co.nz) , you can pretty much assume that the more expensive = the better. I personally would be quite wary of the 128-bit business. Personally I think you should be fine with the 9600XT. No doubt, it should be capable of running almost every game there is on the market now. No guarantee for the future though -as you know with every computer thing...

noone
17-12-2004, 09:34 AM
so the 96000xt ultra is still the best ?