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Mcpisik
22-11-2004, 08:51 PM
Gidday,
I want an internal tv tuner with remote.
I'd be happy to spend a couple of hundred if need be, but don't know what the best way to choose is. I don't care about decoding sky, I just want to record tv onto my hard drive with quality. Any suggestions? I've seen Pixelview pros with remote for $70 incl, but is the cheapness in relation to the lack of functions, or is this card ok?
Good on ya for helping!

Prescott
22-11-2004, 08:55 PM
hey there, leadtech are a good brand of tv tuners, but thats all i know :p

4bes
22-11-2004, 09:23 PM
I've tried 3 different tuners. The Leadtek Winfast is definately the best i have used

Mcpisik
22-11-2004, 09:56 PM
Thanx Pres & 4bes. I'll go with that brand. Should I go for a Dv2000 do you think?

Susan B
23-11-2004, 07:31 AM
Check out this thread (http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=53296&message=337913&q=winfast#337913).

Mcpisik
23-11-2004, 07:34 AM
Thanks Susan. Should of searched under that title first off. Didn't find much under tv tuner...Cheers!

4bes
23-11-2004, 07:37 AM
Have a look through this (http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/tv_tuner/index.asp?lineid=6) page and see what suits your needs. I have the WinFast TV2000 XP Deluxe. It gives a clear picture and does what i need.

Pete O\'Neil
23-11-2004, 08:09 AM
If your willing to spend the money look for a card with hardware MPEG2 decoding, it will mean your computer wont feel like a bloated cat while recording TV.

HadO
23-11-2004, 01:06 PM
Leadtek TV2000 XP Expert would be your best bet IMO ;)

noone
23-11-2004, 01:30 PM
i agree with the expert as well - for the price you pay its great

Pete O\'Neil
23-11-2004, 01:42 PM
I'm going to buck the tread here and reckonmend the Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 or PVR-350, if you can find them in NZ. If you cant find Hauppauge then the PixelView PlayTV@P7000 is also reckonmended. Personally havent used the cards, so i cant comment on the software, but both use hardware to encode the signal as opposed to software, this will give a better quality image and use far less system resources.

I wouldnt be too concerned about the software as you can always download something better at a later date, getting a decent card is more important. I suggest you read a few HTPC websites before making a final decision.

D. McG
23-11-2004, 02:17 PM
I have a ComproView Gold PCI card that is promoted for it's ability to start up the whole computer and record a scheduled programme before shutting down again, and for its apparently superior clear picture. I haven't tried the power-on scheduling yet but I can turn the computer on from the remote - although I don't really use that feature anyway.

The picture quality isn't what I'd call the best - though I get my signal from a 'rabbit-ears' antenna sitting on top of the computer. Although the sound says it's receiving stereo, I mostly get mono sound even though I have heard a few commercials where I was lucky to get stereo sound for a few seconds. Channel one gets a few near-vertical blue bars giving a tint to the picture which saturates when the background is blue.

Timeshifting is helpful, but the picture quality is noticeably fuzzier than normal viewing even though the settings are the optimal. It also takes anywhere up to 10 seconds to switch the TV into or out of timeshift mode. The Teletext function doesn't seem to work.

There seems to be a bug in the software that causes Windows (ME) to hang on shutdown if you leave the remote control process running in the system tray.

There is a background process, TweakYC, that runs automatically on startup for fine-tuning the signal, but this piece of software supplied with the card tells me that the card itself doesn't have the ability to tweak the settings in that program. How ironic!

Anyway, I'd be interested in getting a Leadtek 2000XP Expert if it had a much clearer picture than what Compro claims. The picture is much like what the earliest tuner cards produced on computer store display PCs, which is a little bit disappointing. I may be living on the side of a hill (facing away from Mt Kaukau - Wgtn's repeater tower), but the main TV in the house gets a much clearer picture. Must test to see if the picture improves if I use the aerial mounted on the roof...

Hope that is useful info for doing a comparison for 1st-time buyers!

HadO
23-11-2004, 02:26 PM
The majority of the issues are probably related to the rabbit ears although that card sounds pretty dodgy - never heard of that brand...

The Leadtek cards IMO (with latest drivers and apps) have great picture quality with both tv tuning and capture, great FM tuning, OK remote features, Teletext and great sound too (NICAM/STEREO). I haven't used mine much for encoding but when testing it with various codecs I noticed no change in viewing quality.

If you are going for a Leaktek and the Stereo sound is important ensure you get the Expert model!

noone
23-11-2004, 09:26 PM
do you think the leadtek winfast cards are good for capturing from VHS - i intend on doing that with the one i may purchace

Zippity
23-11-2004, 09:29 PM
> do you think the leadtek winfast cards are good for
> capturing from VHS purchace


yes :)

Mcpisik
24-11-2004, 05:06 AM
Thanks to all those who helped me out, in my time of need....
Have orderd a leadtec dv2000, so I'll post an opinion soon for any who are hunting.
Cheers!!!

noone
24-11-2004, 08:21 AM
is the only difference between the DV 2000 and the tv 2000 xp expert the fact that the dv 2000 has the firewire ports

Mcpisik
24-11-2004, 08:30 AM
Yes, apparantly that's all...

noone
24-11-2004, 08:39 AM
just done some research the dv 2000 has a better chipset then the tv 2000 and also has the firewire

Mcpisik
24-11-2004, 09:18 AM
Sweet! That's what i like to hear. Might have been what the asian guy in the shop was trying to tell me over the telephone?!

noone
26-11-2004, 10:14 AM
hey Mcpisik hows your Dv2000

Mcpisik
26-11-2004, 01:00 PM
> hey Mcpisik hows your Dv2000

metla
26-11-2004, 01:02 PM
Must be good,Apears lost for words...

Mcpisik
26-11-2004, 01:07 PM
lol...

Well that reply didn't quite turn out the way I had intended...
Anyway! The card is all good. Picked up all channels perfectly straight away and very easy install. Good remote and software. Haven't had time for the advance features, but I'll let you know shortly when I do.
:-)

noone
26-11-2004, 01:14 PM
good enough for me - im off to ascent to order one now ( how exciting )

HadO
26-11-2004, 04:15 PM
I prefer the BT878A chipset but for general TV watching the DV should be superior ;)

Someone was selling a TV2000XP Deluxe on trademe for $140 - dreamer - according to the seller the card could not pickup UHF... OK (not).

Mcpisik
26-11-2004, 05:04 PM
Jeepers! $140? Got the dv edition for $160 new incl postage. He must have done the auction in his sleep....He's dreamin'!

noone
26-11-2004, 05:05 PM
what about the BT878A chip for capturing from VHS
$140 - ha

HadO
26-11-2004, 05:06 PM
Sweet as - looks the same as from the TV tuner - I'm running a NiCAM VCR to my Deluxe ;)

noone
01-12-2004, 06:14 PM
got my dv 2000 today , and it is very good - although being very good ( had to rearrange half my cables in my case to get it in nicely ) , encoded from VHS at highest everything ( 3gig p/h ) , and i am impressed by the quality it has for the price you pay. The bundled software is very good to , everything from capturing to editing to burning. So overall im happy with my purchace , thanks for the advice everyone gave me