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drb1
28-10-2004, 10:21 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/27/dell_novell_linux_love-in/

Murray P
28-10-2004, 10:26 PM
Always said those Dell's were top notch.

Wonder if the nice folk at the Warehouse will be stocking them? ;\

Cheers Murray ;P

metla
28-10-2004, 10:33 PM
3 Turkeys

Dell

Linux

Warehouse.

drb1
28-10-2004, 10:37 PM
Dell is a large global supplier.

They have chosen to give Srver customers, an out of the wrapper, "supported" O/S choice.

There has been talk for some time of dell and Amd, maybe it's not all hot air?

No matter what the opinion of the Dell product, can this be a bad thing for the alternative O/S supplier's?

D.

drb1
28-10-2004, 10:39 PM
Metla,

Linux, Turkey?

Is that not a little harsh?

Allthough a good laugh.

D.

metla
28-10-2004, 10:43 PM
Meh....im a harsh critic,doing my utmost to balance the universe.

drb1
28-10-2004, 10:46 PM
> Meh....im a harsh critic,doing my utmost to balance
> the universe.


Where is version 2 article?

Haast was on special again.

But the box is nearly empty.

D.

metla
28-10-2004, 11:09 PM
>>Where is version 2 article?

Coversation i had today.

Hi,im looking to upgrade my video card,i have a 9600 with 128mb of ram....how much is the 256mb version?

>well........that would really be a waste of money as the performance of your video card is defined by the chipset not the ram,You would get zero perfomance increase with that upgrade.Your next step up would be the 9800pro or one of the new generation cards,how much were you looking at spending?

oh?....in that case i'll wait till the 9600 is released with 512mb of ram,do you think they will come out before xmas?

mikebartnz
28-10-2004, 11:12 PM
>There has been talk for some time of dell and Amd, maybe it's not all hot air?

It is hot air as they stand to loose too much because of their deal with Intel even though a lot of people want an AMD Dell machine.

HadO
28-10-2004, 11:15 PM
metla>> LOL :D

metla
28-10-2004, 11:15 PM
why would anyone with the smarts to know the difference between cpu's be looking at buying a Dell?

drb1
28-10-2004, 11:27 PM
> why would anyone with the smarts to know the
> difference between cpu's be looking at buying a
> Dell?
>

The economic imperative of buying a New : cheap, supported, warrantied, server, to run for 4 years. Then dump at scrap value.

D.

mikebartnz
28-10-2004, 11:29 PM
Wouldn't touch one myself. I've also had to secure too many from the net nasties.

metla
28-10-2004, 11:32 PM
> > why would anyone with the smarts to know the
> > difference between cpu's be looking at buying a
> > Dell?
> >
>
> The economic imperative of buying a New : cheap,
> supported, warrantied, server, to run for 4 years.
> Then dump at scrap value.
>
> D.



Yeah,i should have mentioned excluding servers.Dell do well in that area and i have read that clients of theirs have been calling for AMD powered servers.

drb1
28-10-2004, 11:48 PM
> > > why would anyone with the smarts to know the
> > > difference between cpu's be looking at buying a
> > > Dell?
> > >
> >
> > The economic imperative of buying a New : cheap,
> > supported, warrantied, server, to run for 4 years.
> > Then dump at scrap value.
> >
> > D.
>
>
>
> Yeah,i should have mentioned excluding servers.Dell
> do well in that area and i have read that clients of
> theirs have been calling for AMD powered servers.
>


Now we on the same page.

Dell+, linux+, Server+, Amd?, Supplied in the Wrapper+, Warrentied+, fully Supported+.

A combination some folk really do not really want to see.

D.

KatiMike
28-10-2004, 11:49 PM
...so Dell Servers Rock???

We're using an oldish [ like 2-3 yr old] IBM P3 server with NT4 , and are told by the folks who provide our software that this setup won't do inside 12/12 , as M$ won't be supporting NT/ Win 98se ...
.... yada yada yada

I'd rather buy a server with full back-up than build one myself and be held responsible when/if it falls over - tape backup etc applies ...

So , are the Dell servers worth considering ??? :|

Murray P
29-10-2004, 12:08 AM
Opterons in blade servers rock, apparently, with Linux of course. Unfortunately Dell wont build with AMD because they have Intel wrapped around their little finger (price wise & service) for the fact that they buy way more Intel chips than anyone else.

There are plenty more that do put that combo together though.

Cheers Murray P

drb1
29-10-2004, 12:08 AM
> I'd rather buy a server with full back-up than build
> one myself and be held responsible when/if it falls
> over - tape backup etc applies ...
>
> So , are the Dell servers worth considering ??? :|

Thyre a bench mark package. If you dont keep them too long thyer reliable.

Supplied with linux, supported, big BIG plus.

Most of them can be upgrade to life extend, but you need to look at your 100% availability before you go there.

4-5years, out. Work out the numbers, and the cost recovery at sale, also tying in with drive warrantys at that point.

Some of the lease deals are very attractive. Especially for a high loss, larger upfront, item.



I have a 2200 P2 twin, upgraded from 266 to 333, still reliable as, but noisy. good for play but out of "trust" for 100% availability, apart from the CPU its all factory.

2300 went black.

D.

Even if you use their deal to make M/S give you the O/S and licences, if you have that much P/P

KatiMike
29-10-2004, 12:13 AM
Thanks buddy , will look into those issues , Mike

drb1
29-10-2004, 12:14 AM
> Opterons in blade servers rock, apparently, with
> Linux of course..
>

I WANT.

D.

Prescott
29-10-2004, 04:29 PM
i wouldnt touch a dell with a stick or any branded pc.........

Poppa John
29-10-2004, 05:58 PM
Sorry if I am a bit thick. But what is the difference between a "Dell Computer" & a "Dell Server"???? PJ