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Dusty
25-10-2004, 04:23 PM
Re FAQ #60 http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=52146&threadMap=on

Is it possible to network the following setups?:

a: Win XP Home Sp2, 256mb ram, 40g hdd, p4.1600 (NTFS) - and -

b: Win 98se, 48mb ram, 200mb hdd, p100 (FAT32?)

The latter system is kinda ancient, circa 1992, could a modern networking card be used?

Thanks

tweak\'e
25-10-2004, 04:25 PM
provided you can install lan cards in them and run a cable between the pc's...you shouldn't have a problem.

drb1
25-10-2004, 04:25 PM
Yes

Modem networking card? please explain.

D.

tweak\'e
25-10-2004, 04:26 PM
>Modem networking card? please explain

you need more coffeeeee

modern networking card be used

drb1
25-10-2004, 04:36 PM
Tweaky,

Thank you,

Firefox can make text large (Which is very nice) but it doesent transfer between "Tabs" glasses not being worn can lead to little errors.

D.

tommy
25-10-2004, 04:38 PM
The only problem may be that the Windows 98 computer will not be able to read the NTFS partitions directly. See this page (http://kb.indiana.edu/data/acsb.html?cust=714154.78635.30) for more information.

drb1
25-10-2004, 04:39 PM
Afterthought,

If buying new LAN Cards ensure drivers are available for 98.

Some of the new cheapie hardware is not supporting older O/S.

D.

tweak\'e
25-10-2004, 04:42 PM
>The only problem may be that the Windows 98 computer will not be able to read the NTFS partitions directly.

?????

the pc is on a network, it dosn't read the other pc's hardrive directly therefore its not a problem.

drb1
25-10-2004, 04:53 PM
Tommy,

Thats a good article. Its perspective unfortunatly promotes the NTFS trap by sujesting 98 be replaced by xp on NTFS.

Fat, ext2, udf. are universal compatibale formats.

M/S chose to make ext invisible to Windows. M/S chose to make NTFS Dificult /incompatible.

The poster issues make cause him/her to reconsider his/her use of NTFS, and the incompatability issues it raises.

D.

tommy
25-10-2004, 06:26 PM
> >The only problem may be that the Windows 98 computer
> >will not be able to read the NTFS partitions
> >directly.
>
> ?????
>
> the pc is on a network, it dosn't read the other pc's
> hardrive directly therefore its not a problem.

I was referring more to the Windows 98 computer not being able to view the files on the Windows XP computer if the latter has NTFS partitions. Am I wrong with this information?

Spacemannz
25-10-2004, 06:29 PM
Yup you are wrong. On a network 98 can read ntfs or fat32 (or anything). If its on the same hdd then no 98 wont / cant read ntfs.

tommy
25-10-2004, 07:33 PM
> Yup you are wrong. On a network 98 can read ntfs or
> fat32 (or anything).
Thank you for correcting me. I apologise for the wrong information.

> If its on the same hdd then no
> 98 wont / cant read ntfs.
I think that is where I got my wires crossed. I did try to find this information but as is often the case it proved to be illusive when required.

Spacemannz
25-10-2004, 08:21 PM
No worries Tommy. Everyone makes mistakes once in a while :-)

45South
26-10-2004, 09:56 AM
Sysinternals provide a free driver that will allow a 98 installation to read an NTFS partition on the same Hard disk.
Read only though, if you want to write to The NTFS partition you have to buy the full program/driver
From what I understand though & could be wrong here, If the NTFS partition in question is a shared volume on a network that has another machine sharing an NTFS partition then the 98 installation will be able to read & write to it as it will be treated just the same as any other network share
Did that make sense?

tweak\'e
26-10-2004, 10:10 AM
>Did that make sense?

yes. its been covered 2-3 times already :-)

tweak\'e
26-10-2004, 10:12 AM
rob99 said it best....

"Networks are simmilar to the internet.
It dosent matter what computers are on each end, nix, apple, pc, alien."

45South
26-10-2004, 10:17 AM
>yes. its been covered 2-3 times already
Where?
The question I have is
>From what I understand though & could be wrong here, If the NTFS partition in question is a shared volume on a network that has another machine sharing an NTFS partition then the 98 installation will be able to read & write to it as it will be treated just the same as any other network share
I can't see anywhere in the thread if this is true or not
Can a 98 install on the same Hard disk as an NTFS install read the NTFS install if the NTFS partition is a network share?

tweak\'e
26-10-2004, 03:51 PM
sorry i must have skip read it.

win98 cannot read an ntfs partition (without a thirdparty driver) directly reguardless if you share it or not.

pc's on the network do not access the hardrive directly on any other pc in the network.

pcA requests data from pcB. the os on pcB reads data off its hardrive which it then sends to the os on pcA which writes it to its own hardrive.